In this episode, I sit down with the incredible Monica Packer, host of the About Progress podcast, for a conversation that will shake up everything you thought you knew about perfectionism, productivity, and what it really means to move forward in life.

Monica shares her powerful perspective on why perfectionism isn’t about high standards—it’s about fear.

Together, we debunk the toxic myth that if something isn’t perfect, it’s not worth doing (or worse, that you’re just being lazy). Spoiler alert: not doing something perfectly is NOT the same as failing.

We dive into:
💡The real reason so many women struggle with “all-or-nothing” thinking
💡How perfectionism disguises itself as motivation but actually keeps you stuck
💡Why embracing messy progress is the key to lasting growth
💡Tactical ways to start taking action, even when self-doubt is screaming at you

If you’ve ever felt paralyzed by the fear of not doing things right, this conversation is your permission slip to start messy, embrace imperfection, and finally make progress on the things that matter most to you.

Tune in, take a deep breath, and let’s unlearn perfectionism together. 🎙✨

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About Monica

Monica Packer is a normal mom and recovering perfectionist who uncovered the truest model to lasting growth: it's progress made practical. As a podcaster and coach, she guides women to find sustainable growth by adopting progress over perfection. Monica is a mom of 5, former middle school teacher, sourdough obsesser, and beginning gardener. You can find more about Monica at aboutprogress.com.

Download her free resource, The Do Something List here: www.aboutprogress.com/dsl