Kimberlyn and Leilani discuss the ways in which we don’t listen well, as well as the ways in which we can listen to really connect.
Their check-ins:  Leilani sees Brené Brown live!!   Kimberlyn compares the experience of visiting her primary care doctor vs. the incredibly positive experience of being seen and listened by the physician’s assistant.

Mentioned in the episode:  Mindtools Active Listening; The Institute for Habits of Mind; Jessie Swick’s poem, “Please Just Listen.”

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