Sarah and Beth are joined by Elizabeth Oldfield, writer and host of The Sacred. We know the headlines are heavy this week, and Elizabeth has made a career of considering how we can stay engaged and grounded in these turbulent times.

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Sarah and Beth are together to discuss the tragic death of Renee Good in Minneapolis. They process the news, work through their feelings, discuss the unacceptable response from the administration and other elected leaders, and reflect on how the administration’s choices created the circumstances for this event.

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Welcome to our first new episode of 2026. We're thrilled to be back with you to process and discuss the news.

Topics Discussed

• The United States Removes Venezuelan President Maduro in "Police" Action
• America 250: George Washington and Smallpox
• Superflu, Whooping Cough, and Measles
• Outside of Politics: Wishes for 2026

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As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This final episode originally aired in December for our premium members on Substack.

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Beth subtitled this section, “Good Luck, Babes.” They talk about the problem of individualism, how we need to make not just a good life, but a good society, why we need to argue more, and the struggle in realizing that nothing systemic can save us from personal suffering.

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As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This third episode originally aired in September for our premium members on Substack.

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In this episode, they get into the different types of citizens laid out in the book, Beth’s dreaded “swooping,” the role of religion in public life, and what it truly means to care.

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As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This second episode originally aired in May for our premium members on Substack.

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In this episode, they discuss the value of doing things in community, the social construct of marriage, the authors’ disdain for therapeutic culture, and the structures of friendship.

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As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This first episode originally aired in February for our premium members on Substack.

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In this episode, they discuss the introductory, and imagine where the authors would push them, and investigate what the meaning of “the pursuit of happiness” was to the founders in comparison to how we define it now.

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Here we are at the end of another year. Today, we're looking ahead to 2026: our expectations for the year, what we're looking forward to, and what our words of the year are. 

Topics Discussed

• Predictions and Expectations for 2026 
• Good Things to Look Forward to in 2026
• Outside of Politics: 2026 Words of the Year

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Sarah and Beth are looking back on 2025: what was hard, what was surprising, and what went well.

Topics Discussed

• What Happened in 2025: The Second Trump Administration

• Positive Stories from Around the World

• What Would We Tell Ourselves in January 2025

• Outside of Politics: Favorite Books of the Year

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Not many would argue that empathy is one of this administration's strengths. Sarah and Beth talk about the role of empathy in our politics - both when it is a gift and when it is a burden. 

Topics Discussed

• Venezuelan Boat Strikes

• The Empathy Debate

• Outside of Politics: Our Favorite Movies & TV of 2025

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