How can we help those impacted by the L.A. wildfires? Because of A.I., climate change, and falling fertility rates, Ezra Klein says we are living “in the age of monsters,” but is he really just upset about Trump? And how is technology fundamentally rewiring our brains to avoid social interaction, and what should we do about it? Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye offer their suggestions. Then Kaitlyn talks with Wheaton College theology professor Emily McGowin about her new book, “Households of Faith,” and what it means to think of our families formationally rather than formulaically. Also this week—the new Holy Post studio is killer!

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15:22 - The Time of the Monsters

25:11 - The Time for Churches

31:25 - The Anti-Social Century

39:12 - Tiktok and Lonely Routines

45:25 - Bring Back Youth Group!

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55:00 - Interview

56:42 - Why Write About Family?

1:00:40 - Discernment and Improvisation

1:08:04 - Family of God

1:16:05 - Sabbath for Fellowship

1:22:31 - Rhythms of Life  

1:29:30 - End Credits

Households of Faith: Practicing Family in the Kingdom of God by Emily Hunter McGowin: https://a.co/d/7hd5XIW

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Ezra Klein’s “Now is the Time of the Monsters:”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/12/opinion/ai-climate-change-low-birth-rates.html

The Anti-Social Century:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/american-loneliness-personality-politics/681091/

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Former president and born again Christian, Jimmy Carter, died at the age of 100. As the media reflects on his legacy of public service and humanitarianism, some are contrasting Carter’s faith with that of conservative white evangelicals. Esau McCaulley says Carter is being used as a cudgel by progressives to shame their political opponents. Is he right? Skye and Phil unpack two explanations for the country’s rejection of President Carter for Ronald Reagan in 1980. Was Carter too liberal or too humble? Then, pastor and Holy Post Pundit, Gabriel Salguero, is back to talk about a second Trump administration’s plan to deport millions of undocumented immigrants, and how Christians and church leaders should hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Also this week—Phil wants to do a telethon for turtles. 

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23:36 - Is Carter Popular for Being a Progressive Evangelical?

30:36 - Carter, Mr. Rogers, and Pope Francis

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51:53 - Interview

59:24 - The Ambiguity of the Trump Administration

1:11:46 - Developing a Pastoral Response

1:22:03 - Signs of Mass Deportation

1:28:18 - End Credits  

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Sea Turtle Bubble Butt 3D Printing:

 https://www.npr.org/2024/12/28/nx-s1-5238294/sea-turtle-bubble-butt

Jimmy Carter Embodied the “Road Not Taken” by Many White Evangelical Christians:

 https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/31/us/jimmy-carter-evangelical-christians-cec?cid=ios_app

Jimmy Carter’s Life Should Make Christian Right Feel Ashamed:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jimmy-carter-represented-christianity-in-politics-at-its-best/

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Happy new year! We’re starting 2025 by answering questions from the Holy Post audience. You’ve asked us about movies and shows we are looking forward to this year, and what regrets we have about things we’ve said in the past. Phil explains his fashion choices, Skye explains why he’s still a conservative, and Kaitlyn has an idea for replacing “News of the Butt.” Plus, will there be enough room for everyone in the new heavens and earth?

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18:50 - News of the Butt Replacement?

22:01 - Movies and Shows Coming Out in 2025

26:15 - Loving Your Enemies When They're Hurting Others

35:37 - Holy Post: Liberal or Conservative?

47:35 - What Should Phil Wear?

52:44 - Not a Political Talk Podcast

1:03:57 - How to Fit All the People in Heaven

1:10:09 - End Credits

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The MeToo movement was a huge cultural movement—but now, many major government leaders with sexual abuse scandals under their belt seem to go under the radar—how did we get to this point? And what about the aftermath of the ChurchToo movement? David and Skye discuss this, as well as a case in the Supreme Court about Tennessee’s ban on transgender medical intervention for kids.

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0:17 - Show Begins

7:19 - MeToo as a Christian Ethic

12:34 - False Safety in Christian Subculture

22:48 - The Bad Patterns in the Aftermath

28:45 - Bon on Transgender Medical Intervention for Kids

35:14 - Rational Basis Example

44:45 - Tattoos and Parental Consent

52:09 - David’s Prediction on the Court Ruling

58:15 - Looking Forward to Superman

1:06:23 - End Credits

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Merry Christmas! In celebrity conversion news, Denzel Washington got baptized at his church in Harlem just days before his 70th birthday and became a licensed minister, and New York Times columnist, David Brooks, has written about his surprising journey from agnosticism to Christianity. What do these stories tell us about our culture’s ongoing hunger for God? On the other side, David French explains why some Christians now think cruelty is acceptable. New Testament scholar, Nijay Gupta, is back to talk about what the Gospels actually say about Jesus’ birth, and what our Christmas pageants get right and very wrong about the story. Also this week—an airport in New Zealand bans hugs longer than three minutes

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Links Mentioned in the News Segment

Is this airport’s 3-minute limit on goodbye hugs ‘inhumane’? https://www.euronews.com/travel/2024/10/22/max-hug-time-three-minutes-new-zealand-airport-goes-viral-for-limiting-goodbyes#:~:text=Three%20minutes%20was%20%22plenty%20of,and%20serotonin%2C%20De%20Bono%20said

Denzel Washington Gets Baptized and Becomes a Minister During Live Streamed Ceremony: 'It Took a While but I'm Here' https://people.com/denzel-washington-gets-baptized-and-becomes-minister-during-live-streamed-ceremony-8765639

Opinion | The Shock of Faith: It’s Nothing Like I Thought It Would Be https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/19/opinion/faith-god-christianity.html

A Catholic bishop, with a social media following second only to the Pope, is proving that dumbing down the faith is the wrong way to reach young adults. But is his celebrity status getting in the way? A new study finds the most generous people are also the most likely to consistently read the Bible. Kaitlyn talks to Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez about telling the truth to the church out of love. Her new book, “Being a Sanctuary,” is honest about the harms many churches are causing, but also shows how the church is the key to healing. Also this week—rat race cars in Froot Loop land.

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5:16 - Skye’s Dead Salmon Hat

8:15 - Rats Driving Little Cars!

12:50 - Rats Love Driving Little Cars!

21:26 - Bible-Readers Donate More?

25:38 - Are Bible-Readers More Communal?

37:50 - Father Robert Barron

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50:55 - Interview

53:32 - Why Did She Write Being a Sanctuary?

56:38 - The Starbucks Church Model

1:03:25 - Disagreeing Within the Church

1:13:05 - Approaching Looking for a New Church

1:24:20 - End Credits  

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Bishop Robert Barron:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/12/bishop-robert-barron-catholic-church/680953/

Rats Driving Little Cars!

https://theconversation.com/im-a-neuroscientist-who-taught-rats-to-drive-their-joy-suggests-how-anticipating-fun-can-enrich-human-life-239029

Christians Who Read Bible Are More Charitable:

https://religionunplugged.com/news/christians-who-regularly-read-the-bible-are-most-charitable-new-report-finds?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/bible

Other resources:

Being a Sanctuary: The Radical Way for the Body of Christ to Be Sacred, Soft, and Safe by Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez: https://a.co/d/eQy7IEh

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More Americans than ever are single but they’re not happy about it. A new article in The Atlantic examines how the sexes are drifting apart, why more men are looking for a partner than women, and the side-effects of using an app rather than community to find a date. Then, political scientist Hahrie Han’s new book “Undivided” explores why the racial solidarity program at an evangelical megachurch was more successful than corporate DEI programs, and how that success created unexpected challenges for the predominantly white church. Also this week: the Swiss make an A.I. Jesus, and a Chicago school kid makes a medical breakthrough.

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5:21 - Listener Shirt Sent In

9:26 - News of the Butt

12:46 - AI Jesus Confessional

16:04 - Why Not an AI Priest?

21:46 - Are People Dating Anymore?

27:17 - Men’s Delayed Adulthood

34:45 - The Church as Family

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54:58 - Interview

58:00 - Why Write About the Undivided Program?

1:09:06 - What Problems Did Undivided’s Success Cause?

1:18:23 - Jesus and “Being Apolitical”

1:29:13 - End Credits  

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Swiss ‘AI Jesus’ https://cbn.com/news/world/swiss-church-sets-ai-jesus-confessional-booth-critics-cry-blasphemous

The Death of America Romance

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2024/12/4b-sex-strike-american-dating/680770/?utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20241208&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=The+Atlantic+Daily

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Many ideas about the end times including the role of Israel, the mark of the beast, and the rapture became popular through Hal Lindsey’s best-selling book from the 1970s, “The Late Great Planet Earth.” Lindsay died last week at 95. We discuss his legacy and how his book is still shaping the American church long after most of its theology has been debunked. Then, Kaitlyn talks to Douglas McKelvey about his series of prayer books, “Every Moment Holy.” He explains the value of using written prayers and not just spontaneous ones, and how to find God in the ordinary activities of life. Also this week—why are Bible sales way up but church attendance still declining? And 80’s orca fashion makes a comeback.

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6:14 - Orcas Wearing Fish Hats

13:22 - Hal Lindsey and End Times

26:51 - End Times and an Enchanted World

32:26 - Bible Sales Up!

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44:15 - Interview

46:32 - Why Was Every Moment Holy Written?

52:13 - Why Pray Prayers Someone Else Wrote?

58:36 - What Prayers Made it Into the Book?

1:06:21 - How Is Every Moment Holy Used?

1:16:30 - End Credits  

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Orcas Wearing Fish Hats:

https://www.livescience.com/animals/orcas/orcas-start-wearing-dead-salmon-hats-again-after-ditching-the-trend-for-37-years

“Late Great Planet Earth” Author Passes Away:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/11/died-late-great-planet-earth-end-times-hal-lindsey/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/bible

Sales of Bibles Are Booming:

https://www.wsj.com/business/media/sales-of-bibles-are-booming-fueled-by-first-time-buyers-and-new-versions-d402460e

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David French has finally watched Rings of Power season two—and he and Skye don’t quite have the same feelings about it. They compare it to House of the Dragon’s more cynical fantasy world—and why Dune is maybe closer to Tolkien than Martin. They also talk about the Penguin crime drama series, the upcoming Superman movie, and Silo.

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0:18 - Show Begins

1:16 - David’s Take on Rings of Power

5:40 - Skye’s Beef with Rings of Power

13:20 - House of the Dragon

21:52 - World War I

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28:57 - Dune

34:55 - Dark Matter

37:28 - Penguin

41:04 - Looking Forward to Superman

48:56 - End Credits

Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss how to survive the holidays. What’s the best way to engage (or disengage) a contentious relative who wants to argue about politics, and how do we remain united as churches and families in these divided times? Professor, author, and preacher Tony Campolo died last week. Shane Claiborne returns to discuss his friendship with Campolo and his legacy of challenging the American church with the “red letters” of the Bible. Also this week—what’s the real goal behind protecting public nativity displays, and disappointed political witches.

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5:24 - Interview 

6:42 - Political Witches

12:54 - The Liberty Council’s Annual Report

17:19 - Tony Campolo’s Passing

26:35 - Being Grateful

46:03 - Favorite Conflict-Deflection Topic

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56:48 - Interview

1:06:34 - Dealing with Pushback

1:12:00 - Where “Red Letter Christians” Comes From

1:20:46 - What Tony Was Like to Be Around

1:29:15 - End Credits  

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Witches Report Their Spells Against Trump Aren’t Working: “He Has a Shield” https://cbn.com/news/us/witches-report-their-spells-against-trump-arent-working-he-has-shield

Liberty Council’s Friend or Foe Campaign:

https://lc.org/newsroom/details/111124-friend-or-foe-christmas-campaign-2025

Tony Campolo’s Story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRBM_YY_YX0

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With God Daily with Skye Jethani:

https://www.withgoddaily.com/

Voxology Podcast with Mike Erre:

https://pod.link/1049250910

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