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It’s become popular to compare our current political moment with the rise of the Nazi Party in Germany in the 1930s, but what if the better comparison is Germany in the 1920s? A new article by Paul Miller argues that to avoid the rise of authoritarianism, Christian in the United States should do the hard work now of creating an alternative political narrative rather than the easy work of demonizing one side or the other as “Nazis.” Skye talks to Lee Camp, the creator and host of “No Small Endeavor,” about creating spaces for diverse people to have important conversations and why fear is the barrier to practicing godly hospitality. Also this week—evangelicals aren’t entirely opposed to science. But, just like everyone else, they reject the science that contradicts their politics.

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3:56 - Theme Song

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7:20 - Politics and Believing Science

21:43 - America’s Weimar Moment

49:15 -  The Leader’s Way Podcast - Want to enrich your ministry to bring hope to the world? Listen to Christian thinkers and leaders at https://berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast/holypost

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50:55- Interview

57:40 - When Did No Small Endeavor Become so Broad?

1:03:02 - Hospitality vs Fear

1:15:25 - Hospitality Across the Spectrum

1:23:13 - End Credits

Links from News Segment:

Are Evangelical Clergy Outliers on Science? Yes and No

https://religionnews.com/2025/03/20/are-evangelical-clergy-outliers-on-science-yes-and-no/?utm_medium=social

A Confessing Church for America’s Weimar Moment:

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-faith/christians-confessing-church-america2/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=A%20Confessing%20Church%20for%20America%20s%20Weimar%20Moment&utm_campaign=A%20Confessing%20Church%20for%20America%20s%20Weimar%20Moment

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No Small Endeavor Tour: https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/events

Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/

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A new slate of Christian movies and television shows is managing to draw both acclaim from critics and the attention of non-believers. Are the days of cringy Christian media finally behind us? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the impact of “The Chosen” and the new Amazon series, “House of David.” What do these shows get right that so many past faith-based projects got wrong? The Oscar-winning documentary, “No Other Land,” cannot find a distributor in the U.S. because critics say it’s antisemitic, but Phil managed to watch it anyway. He offers his take on the movie, why it’s controversial, and how we can distinguish between sinful antisemitism and legitimate criticism of the Israeli government. Then, Kaitlyn interviews Glenn Packiam about his new book about the Nicene Creed, “What’s a Christian Anyway?” Packiam says the creed can be a beautiful lifeline to people caught in the crosswinds of church corruption and cultural confusion. Also this week: Animal news TSA edition.

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3:00 - Theme Song

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8:20 - Sneaking a Turtle Past TSA

13:10 - Non-cringy Christian Shows?

28:45 - Other Land Documentary

41:24 - Anti-Semiticism vs Criticizing Israel

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50:00 - Interview

1:22:03 - End Credits

Links from News Segment:

TSA Finds Turtle in Man’s Pants

https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2025/03/11/tsa-stops-man-turtle-concealed-his-groin

Other Resources:

What’s a Christian, Anyway?: Finding Our Way in an Age of Confusion and Corruption by Glenn Packiam: https://a.co/d/edrJMmB

Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/

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With declining church attendance and shifting values, there’s no denying that our culture’s posture toward Christianity has changed. Some say America is now “post-Christian,” but author Aaron Renn believes it is downright “anti-Christian.” In a recent NY Times profile, Renn explains why he thinks Christianity now occupies a “negative world,” and why the winsome approach of leaders like Tim Keller should be abandoned for more aggressive tactics. Then, Phil talks with legendary musician, songwriter, and producer Charlie Peacock about his new memoir, “Roots in Rhythm: A Life in Music.” Also this week, a leaked memo reveals the real impact of Trump’s foreign aid cuts and immigration policy, and what exhibits would you add to the Museum of Failure?

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0:00 - Show Starts

2:35 - Theme Song

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5:10 - Museum of Failure

10:35 - Trump Cutting Funding—to the US?

24:30 - Negative World

32:57 - Crotch Christianity?

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55:20 - Interview

1:06:00 - Personal Spirituality and the Music Industry

1:14:22 - Death on the Mountaintop

1:31:30 - End Credits

Links from News Segment:

Museum of Failure:

https://abc7news.com/post/museum-failure-look-legal-challenges-surrounding-what-could-san-franciscos-newest-attraction/15955141/

Article on Aaren Renn by Ruth Graham and Madeleine Hordinski:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/06/us/aaron-renn-christianity-conservative-negative-world.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c&pvid=37FBD019-9B01-4CB8-B85C-587FBFCB4794#

Other Resources:

Roots and Rhythm by Charlie Peacock: A Life in Music: https://a.co/d/2lwSYE2

Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/

Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus

Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

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After a made-for-T.V. meltdown in the Oval Office between President Trump and President Zelensky of Ukraine, the administration cut all military aid to Ukraine and sided with Russia instead. Will this cause some evangelicals to rethink their support for Trump, and if so where will they go? Two popular Christian books are saying that empathy is manipulative at best, or downright sinful at worst. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn examine their arguments. Most Christians  probably believe that racism is rooted in hate or ignorance, but historian Malcolm Foley says it’s really all about greed. Until we understand the economic origins of racism, he says, the church won’t be equipped to fight it. Also this week—name five things you did last week to justify your existence.

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2:57 - Theme Song

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5:50 - Five Things to Justify Your Existence

9:24 - Zelensky and Trump

19:26 - Cutting Off Therapeutic Food

26:35 - The Divide of Politics and Personal Ethics

30:20 - The Sin of Empathy

40:35 - Misidentifying the Problem

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57:42 - Interview

59:50 - What Links Theology and Finance?

1:03:35 - How Greed Leads to Racism

1:18:00 - Love as a Material Relationship

1:30:52 - End Credits

Resources:

The Anti-Greed Gospel: Why the Love of Money in the Root of Racism and How the Church Can Create a New Way Forward by Malcolm Foley: https://a.co/d/cSlX28G

Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/

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 In his first month in office, Donald Trump has broken international agreements with allies, ended all foreign aid, voted with America's enemies in the UN, posted a plan to turn Gaza into a Trump casino and resort, purged the Pentagon of military commanders, appointed podcasters and conspiracy theorists to his cabinet, and threatened to invade or annex Canada, Greenland, and Panama. David French and Skye Jethani discuss various theories to explain Trump's approach to governing, and find one model that makes a lot of sense in an article by Jonathan Rouch. Then they contrast it with what the Founders said was necessary for the republic to survive—virtue. Finally, they discuss how the decline of virtue in American leadership may be the fruit of the church's failure to make disciples.

0:00 - French Friday's Moving to The SkyePod!

1:27 - The Theme Song

2:23 - Ukraine and Trump

8:11 - Trump 1.0 vs Trump 2.0

16:43 - Triumphalism's Shelf Life

25:53 - Bureaucracy vs Mob Boss

32:38 - Megachurches and Patrimonialism

39:38 - American Democracy and Christianity

55:52 - Prophecy's Role in MAGA

1:05:00 - End Credits

One Word Describes Trump (Article by Jonathan Rauch): https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/corruption-trump-administration/681794/

Cross Purposes: Christianity’s Broken Bargain with Democracy by Jonathan Rauch: https://a.co/d/26wdqNC 

Pursuit of Happiness: How Classical Writers on Virtue Inspired the Lives of the Founders and Defined America by Jeffrey Rosen: https://a.co/d/6Crl6Hk

Has Wheaton College, the flagship of evangelical higher ed, gone woke? Concerned parents and alumni have published a letter accusing the school of valuing diversity more than discipleship. Others have responded by defending Wheaton against the unfounded claims of the MAGA mob. What does the controversy reveal about the state of evangelicalism in the U.S.? A new piece by friend of the show, Karen Swallow Prior, explores the relationship between justice and mercy. Does emphasizing one value more than the other explain the rift in the American church? Derwin Gray is back to discuss his new book, “Lit Up With Love.” He explains how evangelism fits into the bigger narrative of the Bible, and how our reconciliation with God impacts our reconciliation with others. Also this week—North Dakota officially rejects the kingship of Jesus.

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4:07 - Theme Song

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8:09 - Legal Resolution to Recognize Kingship of Jesus

12:56 - Wheaton Controversy, Russell Vought

18:42 - Wheaton, the Cultural Institution

31:03 - Justice and Mercy

37:05 - The Necessity of Wisdom

41:10 - What is Legalism?

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55:20 - Interview

56:28 - Lit Up With Love

1:00:03 - Appetizer for the New Creation

1:06:11 - Confrontational Evangelism

1:15:10 - The Risk of Loving the Church

1:25:52 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

North Dakota House Rejects “Kingship of Jesus” Resolution:

https://news.prairiepublic.org/local-news/2025-02-19/house-rejects-kingship-resolution?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/religion

Mercy and Justice, False Dichotomy

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-faith/justice-mercy-virtues-christianity/

Other resources:

Lit Up with Love: Becoming Good-News People to a Gospel-Starved World by Derwin Gray: https://a.co/d/aRcDAuB

Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/

Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus

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Skye explains the strong biblical ties between two seemingly related concepts: worship and justice. Can you even have one without the other?

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Since WWII, the United States has been actively engaged in foreign aid as part of its strategic foreign policy, and Christians of all theological and political views have broadly supported this effort. In the first month of the Trump administration, however, Christians on the far right have suddenly turned against international aid. What’s behind this change and are there parallels on the religious left? And what does it mean when MAGA Catholics are arguing directly with Pope Francis about immigrants, refugees, and the poor? Author and journalist, Katherine Stewart, has investigated the religious nationalist movement for 15 years. She says there’s a major disconnect between the super-rich funding the movement (many aren’t even Christians), and the average white evangelicals caught up in its conspiracy theories and events. She talks with Skye about her new book, “Money, Lies, and God.” Also this week—Phil looks at larvae and sees the face of God.

World Relief Advocate:

https://worldrelief.org/advocate/

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2:28 - Theme Song

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5:32 - News of the Termite-Faced Butts!

12:03 - Space Force Skye

19:20 - Is Humanitarian Aid Biblical?

24:32 - Romans 13

37:35 - Are Anti-Foreign Aid Arguments Consistent?

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53:44 - Interview

57:03 - Information Bubbles

1:03:33 - Is this All a Grift?

1:10:11 - The Inconsistencies of MAGA

1:20:17 - Red Caesar

1:25:52 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

World Relief Advocate:

https://worldrelief.org/advocate/

Termite-Face-Butts!

https://www.livescience.com/animals/insects/moroccan-fly-maggot-uses-fake-face-on-its-butt-to-infiltrate-termite-colony

Pope Francis and American Catholics Clash:

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/pope-francis-jd-vance-immigration-tom-homan-rcna192291

Trump Demonizes Faith-Based Partners and Government Grants

https://religionnews.com/2025/02/12/is-taking-government-money-a-sin-for-churches-and-ministries-or-a-liberal-plot/?utm_medium=social

Other resources:

Money, Lies and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy by Katherine Stewart: https://a.co/d/b85D6UN

Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/

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The White House is defunding USAID, one of the largest distributors of foreign aid, and blaming it on wasteful spending—like a D.E.I musical in Ireland. But as Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn unpack, the real losers are Christian relief organizations like World Relief and Catholic Charities, which now face devastating budget cuts. Then, it’s been over 20 years since the release of Blue Like Jazz, the bestselling book that made faith feel cool. Did it offer a helpful critique of evangelicalism, or was this the beginning of the rise of vibes-based Christianity? Also, New York Times columnist Ross Douthat joins Skye to discuss his new book, Believe: Why Everyone Should Be Religious. He explains why our increasingly secular culture is still drawn to spirituality and why rejecting religious institutions in favor of “DIY faith” may not be the answer. Plus, we have a trailer for a new season of Why I’m Still a Christian.

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2:18 - Theme Song

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8:25  - Trump and Christian Persecution

12:22 - Elon Shuts Down USAID

19:53 - Did USAID Really Fund That?

24:29 - Principle of Unitary President

35:42 - Blue Like Untethered Christianity

39:57 - Consumerist Christianity and Vibes

46:41 - Why I’m Still a Christian Season 2 Sneak Peak!

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51:11 - Interview

52:30 - A Case for Religion?

56:26 - Why Not Just Argue for Jesus?

1:02:23 - Are Secular Circles Falling Apart?

1:11:00 - Fine Tuning Argument

1:23:04 - Why Not Pursue Spirituality on Your Own?

1:28:05 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in News Segment:

Editorial: SIlence in the Face of Trump’s Cruelty is Complicity:

https://www.ncronline.org/opinion/editorial/editorial-silence-face-trumps-cruelty-complicity

Contact Bishops and Diocese by State:

https://www.usccb.org/about/bishops-and-dioceses/all-dioceses

USAID Trump Fact Checker:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/07/usaid-trump-fact-checker/

Blue Like Jazz:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/01/blue-like-jazz-donald-miller-church-optional/

Other resources:

Believe: Why Everyone Should Be Religious: https://a.co/d/3oVuOKR

Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/

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Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

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