This is our unabridged interview with Baratunde Thurston.

What does it mean to be human in the age of AI?

From writing for The Onion to hosting PBS’s America Outdoors and launching the hit podcast Life With Machines, Baratunde Thurston has spent a career telling stories about interdependence—with one another, with the natural world, and now, with rising machine intelligence. Together, he and Lee unpack how AI both challenges and affirms our humanity, and what practices of democracy might guide us toward a more equitable technological future.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

⁠Life With Machines Podcast⁠ 

⁠How to Citizen Podcast ⁠

⁠“How to Be Black” by Baratunde Thurston⁠  

⁠Audrey Tang⁠ 

⁠The Bioregional Movement⁠

⁠Haudenosaunee Confederacy⁠

⁠Data & Society Research Institute⁠

⁠Dem Next⁠

⁠Jon Alexander⁠

⁠“You’re More Powerful Than You Think” by Eric Liu⁠

⁠Center for Humane Technology⁠

⁠⁠⁠⁠

 Similar Episodes:

⁠Meghan O’Gieblyn⁠: Technology and Humanity 

Science, Faith, and Einstein: ⁠Alister McGrath⁠

⁠Ayana Elizabeth Johnson⁠: What If We Get Climate Action Right?

 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Transcript⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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What does it mean to be human in the age of AI?

From writing for The Onion to hosting PBS’s America Outdoors and launching the hit podcast Life With Machines, Baratunde Thurston has spent a career telling stories about interdependence—with one another, with the natural world, and now, with rising machine intelligence. Together, he and Lee unpack how AI both challenges and affirms our humanity, and what practices of democracy might guide us toward a more equitable technological future.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

⁠Life With Machines Podcast⁠ 

⁠How to Citizen Podcast ⁠

⁠“How to Be Black” by Baratunde Thurston⁠  

⁠Audrey Tang⁠ 

⁠The Bioregional Movement⁠

⁠Haudenosaunee Confederacy⁠

⁠Data & Society Research Institute⁠

⁠Dem Next⁠

⁠Jon Alexander⁠

⁠“You’re More Powerful Than You Think” by Eric Liu⁠

⁠Center for Humane Technology⁠

⁠⁠⁠⁠

 Similar Episodes:

⁠Meghan O’Gieblyn⁠: Technology and Humanity 

Science, Faith, and Einstein: ⁠Alister McGrath⁠

⁠Ayana Elizabeth Johnson⁠: What If We Get Climate Action Right?

 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Transcript⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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This is our unabridged interview with Dan Heath.

Do you feel like your life needs a reset? 

Lee C. Camp sits down with Dan Heath, bestselling author and host of the podcast What It's Like To Be, to explore strategies of how we can change, whether at work or in our personal lives. In his new book Reset: How to Change What’s Not Working, Dan shares proven techniques he discovered to help transform small observations into meaningful change, paving the way for a more satisfying life.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

“Reset: How to Change What’s Not Working” by Dan Heath

What It’s Like To Be… Podcast

“Switch: How To Change Things When Change Is Hard” by Dan Heath

 Similar Episodes:

⁠Juliet Schor: The Extensive Benefits of a Four-Day Work Week

Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman

Astro Teller: Captain of Moonshots on Purpose and Profit

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Do you feel like your life needs a reset? 

Lee C. Camp sits down with Dan Heath, bestselling author and host of the podcast What It's Like To Be, to explore strategies of how we can change, whether at work or in our personal lives. In his new book Reset: How to Change What’s Not Working, Dan shares proven techniques he discovered to help transform small observations into meaningful change, paving the way for a more satisfying life.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

⁠“Reset: How to Change What’s Not Working” by Dan Heath⁠

⁠ What It’s Like To Be… Podcast⁠

⁠ “Switch: How To Change Things When Change Is Hard” by Dan Heath⁠

 Similar Episodes:

⁠⁠⁠⁠Juliet Schor⁠: The Extensive Benefits of a Four-Day Work Week

Time Management for Mortals: ⁠Oliver Burkeman⁠

⁠Astro Teller⁠: Captain of Moonshots on Purpose and Profit

 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Transcript⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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This is our unabridged interview with Sharon McMahon.

Have you ever wished someone would explain the inner workings of America’s political landscape — without taking sides or fueling the outrage machine? 

With over 1.3 million Instagram followers, Sharon McMahon, known affectionately as “America’s Government Teacher,” has spent her career doing exactly that. Drawing from her roots in public education, Sharon rose to prominence on social media during the chaotic 2020 election season. Her clear, fact-based explanations of complex government processes have garnered her a loyal following of self-proclaimed “Governerds,” and today, her teaching reaches millions through her acclaimed podcast, Here's Where It Gets Interesting, her best-selling book The Small and the Mighty, and The Preamble, one of America's most widely-read nonpartisan newsletters. In this thoughtful conversation, Sharon reflects on the transformative power of education, the urgent need for informed civic participation, and the hopeful possibilities that emerge when we approach politics not as partisan warriors but as compassionate, curious learners.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

⁠“The Small and the Mighty” by Sharon McMahon 

Here's Where It Gets Interesting Podcast

The Preamble Newsletter

 Similar Episodes:

Emma Varvaloucas

Nashville Mayor Freddie O’Connell

Nancy French

 ⁠⁠⁠⁠Transcript⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Have you ever wished someone would explain the inner workings of America’s political landscape — without taking sides or fueling the outrage machine? 

With over 1.3 million Instagram followers, Sharon McMahon, known affectionately as “America’s Government Teacher,” has spent her career doing exactly that. Drawing from her roots in public education, Sharon rose to prominence on social media during the chaotic 2020 election season. Her clear, fact-based explanations of complex government processes have garnered her a loyal following of self-proclaimed “Governerds,” and today, her teaching reaches millions through her acclaimed podcast, Here's Where It Gets Interesting, her best-selling book The Small and the Mighty, and The Preamble, one of America's most widely-read nonpartisan newsletters. In this thoughtful conversation, Sharon reflects on the transformative power of education, the urgent need for informed civic participation, and the hopeful possibilities that emerge when we approach politics not as partisan warriors but as compassionate, curious learners.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

⁠⁠⁠⁠“The Small and the Mighty” by Sharon McMahon⁠ 

⁠Here's Where It Gets Interesting Podcast⁠

⁠ The Preamble Newsletter⁠

 Similar Episodes:

⁠Emma Varvaloucas⁠

⁠Nashville Mayor Freddie O’Connell⁠

⁠Nancy French⁠

 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Transcript⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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This is our unabridged interview with Emma Varvaloucas.

What if the way you consume the news could shape the world for the better? 

In this stirring conversation, Lee C. Camp sits down with journalist and Buddhist practitioner Emma Varvaloucas, Executive Director of The Progress Network, to explore how we can reclaim our agency in a world addicted to anxiety. 

Emma shares practical tips for engaging with the news that not only have the potential to reduce despair but may unlock new energy to take action for a better world. Drawing from her journey through Buddhism, therapy, and even psychedelics, Emma offers tools for transforming our inner world and renewing our civic imagination. This is not about wishful thinking, but a hopeful realism rooted in data, perspective, and the belief that how we see the world can help change it.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

Emma Varvaloucas

The Progress Network

⁠⁠“How Populism Dies” by Kurt Weyland, Political Science Quarterly, 2022⁠

Our World in Data: Share of Population Living in Extreme Poverty

"Factfulness" by Hans Rosling

 Similar Episodes:

⁠Rainn Wilson

Tara Brach

Francis Collins

 ⁠⁠⁠Transcript⁠⁠⁠

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What if the way you consume the news could shape the world for the better? 

In this stirring conversation, Lee C. Camp sits down with journalist and Buddhist practitioner Emma Varvaloucas, Executive Director of The Progress Network, to explore how we can reclaim our agency in a world addicted to anxiety. 

Emma shares practical tips for engaging with the news that not only have the potential to reduce despair but may unlock new energy to take action for a better world. Drawing from her journey through Buddhism, therapy, and even psychedelics, Emma offers tools for transforming our inner world and renewing our civic imagination. This is not about wishful thinking, but a hopeful realism rooted in data, perspective, and the belief that how we see the world can help change it.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

⁠Emma Varvaloucas⁠

⁠The Progress Network⁠

⁠⁠⁠“How Populism Dies” by Kurt Weyland, Political Science Quarterly, 2022⁠⁠

⁠Our World in Data: Share of Population Living in Extreme Poverty⁠

⁠"Factfulness" by Hans Rosling⁠

 Similar Episodes:

⁠⁠⁠⁠Rainn Wilson⁠

⁠Tara Brach⁠

⁠Francis Collins⁠

 ⁠⁠⁠⁠Transcript⁠⁠⁠⁠

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This is our unabridged interview with Melina Laboucan-Massimo.

What does perseverance look like on the long road to justice? 

Melina Laboucan-Massimo was born in the Lubicon Cree community of Little Buffalo, in what today is called northern Alberta. Some of her earliest memories include chasing dragonflies through pristine wilderness and protesting with her family against the oil and gas companies that threatened their way of life. Melina spent decades tirelessly advocating for climate justice and indigenous rights, until recently, when the Alberta wildfires left her bedridden and exhausted. Today, Melina and Lee discuss her journey back to health and the pathways forward, grounded in Indigenous knowledge, balance, and collective flourishing.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation

National Inquiry into MMIWG

'Oil on Lubicon Land' Documentary

Sacred Earth Solar

Indigenous Climate Action

'Power to the People' Documentary

 Similar Episodes:

Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

David Blight

Debra Rienstra

 ⁠⁠Transcript⁠⁠

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What does perseverance look like on the long road to justice? 

Melina Laboucan-Massimo was born in the Lubicon Cree community of Little Buffalo, in what today is called northern Alberta. Some of her earliest memories include chasing dragonflies through pristine wilderness and protesting with her family against the oil and gas companies that threatened their way of life. Melina spent decades tirelessly advocating for climate justice and indigenous rights, until recently, when the Alberta wildfires left her bedridden and exhausted. Today, Melina and Lee discuss her journey back to health and the pathways forward, grounded in Indigenous knowledge, balance, and collective flourishing.

 Show Notes

 Resources:

⁠National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation⁠

⁠National Inquiry into MMIWG⁠

⁠'Oil on Lubicon Land' Documentary⁠

⁠ Sacred Earth Solar⁠

⁠ Indigenous Climate Action⁠

⁠'Power to the People' Documentary⁠

 Similar Episodes:

⁠Ayana Elizabeth Johnson⁠

⁠David Blight⁠

⁠Debra Rienstra⁠

 ⁠⁠⁠Transcript⁠⁠⁠

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