In this episode, Kate speaks with surgeon, writer, and public health leader Dr. Atul Gawande about the deeply human questions that surface when medicine meets its limits. What does it mean to be a good doctor when a cure isn’t possible? What do people really mean when they say they want “quality of life”?

Together, they talk about caregiving, end-of-life decisions, and how the most honest conversations in healthcare begin—not with answers—but with better questions.

For anyone living with chronic illness, caring for someone they love, or wondering what it means to live a good life with limits, this conversation won’t offer easy fixes. But it might offer something just as rare: clarity, compassion, and the courage to ask what really matters.

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Show notes: 

• The Aspen Ideas Festival

• Being Mortal by Dr. Atul Gawande

• The Green House Project

• Ari Johnson & Muso Health

• Organizations for further action: World Food Programme, UNICEF, American Red Cross

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You were supposed to be a whole new person by now. Sun-kissed and emotionally regulated. Inbox at zero.

But here we are—still tired, still trying, still wondering if change is even possible. In this episode, I reflect on the seasons when we ache to become someone else. Someone better and explore the ancient idea of virtue—especially the least sexy one, prudence—as a compass for who we’re becoming and how.

Rooted in Christian theology, this episode is for the slow changers. The late bloomers. The people choosing one small, faithful step instead of a total overhaul.

Plus, it includes a blessing for anyone who’s trying to change... but not overnight.

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We are re-airing some of our favorite episodes during our summer break like this one with expert facilitator, Priya Parker. After the pandemic took apart so many of our favorite ways of hanging out, we might be out of practice. Or too tired or overwhelmed. Priya encourages us all to practice being together for different reasons. And they don’t have to be nearly as fancy or predictable as we might think…

In this episode, Kate and Priya discuss: 

• How do we show up for other people and ourselves in creative ways 
• How to know when a change might be needed in a regular gathering 
• Risk and the awkwardness of needing people

 

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During our summer break, we are re-airing some of our favorite episodes! Margaret Renkl calls herself a backyard naturalist—but not because she has any particular expertise. From the birds in her yard to the bugs in her flower beds, she has learned the art of attention. Nature has taught her a speed at which to live, to hope, to stave off despair. 

In this conversation, Kate and Margaret discuss:

• What we miss when we imagine we have to drive somewhere else to experience nature, instead of noticing it around us
• What birds teach us about what it means to be a good mother
• How to learn to love even the mosquitoes and wasps
• Where Margaret experiences moments of holiness
• How we might all start to be besotted by beauty

Perhaps, we can borrow some of Margaret’s innate curiosity together and see how it might open us up to wonder and love and connectedness once again.

 

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We are re-airing some of our favorite episodes during our summer break, and this one with Shauna Niequist is a gem. Our obligations never stop, do they? How do we get off the achievement train and build a beautiful life within the constraints of our own limitations? Writer Shauna Niequist was on the fast track to burnout when she received advice that changed the pace of her life entirely. Kate and Shauna talk about the productivity myths we believe and how to embrace a slower, smaller life marked by delight.

 

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During our summer break, we are re-airing some of our favorite episodes. What do you do when hope feels lost? Abstract artist Lanecia Rouse Tinsley is no stranger to the hopelessness that comes with grief. In extended isolation because of the pandemic, a nationwide reckoning with race, and our own personal losses, we could all use a bit of what Lanecia calls holy seeing. In this episode, Kate and Lanecia discuss how creativity can be an act of resistance and the hope she discovered on a blank canvas.

CW: Miscarriage, death of a child, racism

 

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Ah, summer. The season of sticky popsicles and even stickier expectations. It’s supposed to be the time of rest and freedom, but more-often-than-not, it’s anything but. In this solo episode, Kate shares from her very real, very mosquito-bitten summer, exploring the myth of summer as effortless bliss and what it means to resist our culture’s obsession with doing more, achieving more, and smiling through it all.

Instead, what if we embraced a gentler kind of ambition? Kate reflects on the sacred permission of Sabbath, the theology of rest, and how even our underachieving might be a form of holy resistance.

If you’re feeling overcooked, overwhelmed, or just plain over it—this one’s for you.

Relevant Links:
Sabbath as Resistance by Walter Brueggemann
Have a Beautiful, Terrible Day by Kate Bowler
A Blessing for the Burnt Out, Soul-Drenched, and Sun-Weary

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During our summer break, we are re-airing some of our favorite episodes.

In this live conversation recorded at Duke University, the indomitable Liz Gilbert (of EAT, PRAY, LOVE fame) joins Kate for a discussion about the courage to create. Listen as Liz helps us expose our exhausting American need to make everything useful and lets us embrace beauty as a way of really living.

In this episode, Kate and Liz discuss: 

• Why we stop ourselves from being creative 
• How we are all capable of making anything (badly! medium-well!) 
• But how our creativity is best if it is for no reason whatsoever (not for impact or legacy or money or acknowledgement) 
• How curiosity quiets fear and control

CW: some spicy adult language

 

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During our summer break, we are re-airing some of our favorite episodes! In a world that constantly demands more—more work, more achievement, more hustle—how do we learn to pause? Kate sits down with her sister Maria Bowler, a writer, creativity coach, and spiritual director, to talk about the pressures of the “producer self,” that voice inside us all that equates our worth with what we do, fix, or achieve.

This conversation is an invitation to live differently—to embrace rest, love, and the sacredness of simply being. For the overachievers, the caregivers, and the deeply tired (you know who you are): you are already enough.

In this conversation, Kate and Maria discuss:

• How to see one another (and ourselves) through a lens of love

• How to give yourself permission to rest and procrastinate

• The difference between meaningful work and the hustle that leaves us hollow

If you liked this episode, you’ll also love: 

• Oliver Burkeman: New Year, Same Me

• Liz Gilbert: Why Your Creativity Matters

• Emma Gannon: The Butterfly Era

 

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Sometimes, the bad thing happens—again. The kind of news that flattens your plans, your energy, your sense of who you are. And you think, surely that’s enough now. Haven’t we hit the quota for suffering? But there’s no quota, just the long middle where life doesn’t follow a script and you’re left figuring out how to be a person again.

Suleika Jaouad knows this terrain well. She’s a writer, artist, and advocate, beloved for her memoir Between Two Kingdoms and her new offering The Book of Alchemy—a creative companion for those learning to live when life doesn’t go according to plan. Diagnosed with leukemia in her twenties and now navigating her third relapse, Suleika brings a voice shaped by experience, beauty, grief, and humor.

Together again on the Everything Happens podcast, Suleika and Kate talk about:

• how illness reshapes the rhythms of a life
• the grief and freedom of falling apart—and not rushing to fix it
• the idea of “creative injuries” and why so many of us stopped making
• how small rituals can anchor us in seasons of uncertainty
• why creating something, anything, can be a way to stay human in the in-between

If you liked this episode, you might also like: 

• Artist Lanecia Rouse Tinsley on “When Hope Seems Lost”
• Stacey Heale, “The Aftermath of the Aftermath”
• Suleika’s first and second Everything Happens episodes

 

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