What does humility look like when you're standing at the absolute top? Kelly talks with Steve Kerr—nine-time NBA champion—about the tension between winning and perspective, the culture built on values most people wouldn't associate with dominance, and the contradiction at the heart of his best player, Steph Curry. They explore why we're drawn to watching people reach their peak, what coaches taught him that had nothing to do with basketball, and how loss shaped the way he leads. Steve also reflects on using his platform when staying quiet would be easier, what he's learning from the youngest people in the room, and why beginner's mind might be the most important practice of all.

This is the first episode in a six-part series on super traits including humility curiosity and creativity, supported by a generous grant from the John Templeton Foundation.

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Beth Mason wrote this love letter to her sister Susan who, as the "in town" sibling, became their parents' default caregivers. Beth encourages us all to pass this along to anyone who's in the trenches doing the hard, essential work of caring for others. We see you - and we're so grateful. (Previously aired)

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What if your New Year's resolutions weren't about losing weight or getting organized, but about becoming more curious, humble, and creative? Kelly reflects on why these three traits matter and how they're connected—curiosity as genuinely wondering instead of rushing to conclusions, humility as recognizing there's always more to learn and some things we'll never understand, and creativity as problem-solving with whatever you have in front of you. It's about resolutions that actually lay the groundwork for better days, better relationships, and better work.

Check out our new 6-part series called Super Traits, made possible by a grant from the John Templeton Foundation. The first episode airs Jan 6th, 2026 and is Kelly's interview with NBA coach Steve Kerr on the topic of humility .

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Kelly and Kate Bowler return for the second half of their annual "Crappy/Happy" tradition—this time, the happy. They share the moments from 2025 that restored something, surprised them, or reminded them of what's important.

During this episode, you may hear a promo for our good friend Rainn Wilson's new Soul Boom Workbook. Here's the link to check it out:

https://www.amazon.com/Soul-Boom-Workbook-Spiritual-Modern/dp/1538775549?crid=2K600IOLTO480&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.njEwE1KauBdfmMJ9mwdWHaPVxWVREypAoDL5oh74UYG1_taS62Qxnjfb_mM8dfLle7kRCmGRTML3WhY_HP-G6_-58thtk6MoeWAEJ4WZpdXM3CniE6oubPy7kKMjlKUQsPsOKwKb-9pBdW1SsW7GDEFW3LC2l1L2R13mizfBg1_SKMVhIkFjMtpgCMcX4eb7x8OB0oxhwO-Dzcha8wJtE8e7mhnKBOWEoHPd2tu-FPA.BBz5fyyr7OswSgL5w4jfEH_ya5m9yfOyV0OcWTg8B1A&dib_tag=se&keywords=soul+boom+workbook&qid=1762393535&sprefix=soul+boom+work,aps,174&sr=8-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=soulboom-20&linkId=194c58045ef60f5d27c02ac9dde97db3&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

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Karen Mulvaney writes about her father—a man who did cartwheels in a cornfield when her mother said "Yes!", who woke his kids with pots and pans at dawn so they could be first on the ski mountain, and who stood by his family through everything that came their way. She reflects on what defined his life: steadfastness, a welcoming heart, and the belief that showing up for others—family, friends, or strangers—is the key to everything. Even when grief and illness reduced him to a wisp of himself, he still showed up. It's about the kind of love that doesn't waver, the kind that makes everyone feel like they matter, and the way a big, wide-open heart lives on in the people left behind.

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Kelly had a dream. Over a decade, the dream started to seem stupidly out of reach so she went about her business raising money for non profits. But in a surprise twist involving two crushing diagnoses, a new version of the dream started to look possible and she leapt at it. 

Here are 6 takeaways to inspire and motivate, including embracing desires, recognizing personal biases, finding motivation, sharing dreams selectively, taking small steps, and embracing failure - and the case for engaging in five beats. 

This episode is a great share. Consider it a loving kick in the backside for anyone who can’t seem to find their way forward. (Previously aired)

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Kelly and Kate Bowler return for their annual, end-of-the-year "Crappy Happy" tradition—this week, the crappy. They wade into the losses that don't announce themselves all at once: the thinning of what used to feel full, the realization that some struggles are life sentences, and the slow unraveling of institutions that once felt solid. Kate reflects on what it costs to do slow, unglamorous work in a world that no longer values it and Kelly considers what happens when systems built to protect everyone start serving only one. They talk about acceptance as a form of hope, the surprising need to be bone tired, and how to tell the difference between people fighting for their side and people protecting what shelters us all. It's an honest, grounding conversation—with the happy coming next week.

During this episode, you may hear a promo for our good friend Rainn Wilson's new Soul Boom Workbook. Here's the ⁠link ⁠to check it out:

https://www.amazon.com/Soul-Boom-Workbook-Spiritual-Modern/dp/1538775549?crid=2K600IOLTO480&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.njEwE1KauBdfmMJ9mwdWHaPVxWVREypAoDL5oh74UYG1_taS62Qxnjfb_mM8dfLle7kRCmGRTML3WhY_HP-G6_-58thtk6MoeWAEJ4WZpdXM3CniE6oubPy7kKMjlKUQsPsOKwKb-9pBdW1SsW7GDEFW3LC2l1L2R13mizfBg1_SKMVhIkFjMtpgCMcX4eb7x8OB0oxhwO-Dzcha8wJtE8e7mhnKBOWEoHPd2tu-FPA.BBz5fyyr7OswSgL5w4jfEH_ya5m9yfOyV0OcWTg8B1A&dib_tag=se&keywords=soul+boom+workbook&qid=1762393535&sprefix=soul+boom+work,aps,174&sr=8-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=soulboom-20&linkId=194c58045ef60f5d27c02ac9dde97db3&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

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Colleen Gilroy tells the story of her mother, Mary Pat—a woman who stayed up deep into the night knitting Christmas stockings, thinking about each recipient as her needles clicked in the stillness while everyone else slept. Mary Pat was a night shift NICU nurse who cared for thousands of fragile babies and their frightened parents, a leprechaun of a woman who never let the truth interfere with a good tale, someone who poured 30 hours of attention into every stocking she made—holding each person in her heart as she worked. Colleen shares what unfolded at the funeral when the family lined the church pews with their stockings, then processed out to the sound of thousands of tiny bells ringing at once, each one marking a life Mary Pat had touched.

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What does it take to truly see someone before they're gone? Kelly shares an essay she wrote for an evening celebrating awe, reflecting on attention as a practice—learning to notice in wild places with a guide who insists you look closer, then bringing that same discipline to a quiet room where it matters most.

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How much can we blame DNA for our depression and anxiety? Is something about our mental health pre-written into our genetic code? How much trauma carries over from one generation to the next? How should we think about epi-genetics? These were 4 of the 20 questions I brought to Dr. Francis Collins, the guy who let the team that mapped the human genome. There’s two things I want to say about this episode: I learned so much just studying for the interview and every minute I spent with Francis Collins was a total joy. He is a very special person — direct, deeply informed (maybe moreso on this topic than anyone else on Earth) and delightful. I am so excited to put his guy in your ear — a happy, loving man filled with purpose and eager to share what he knows (and doesn’t) for the greater good. And he laughs easily and a lot. So, I was getting hits of my dad the whole time. A heavenly experience that comes through in every minute of the conversation. Enjoy. (Previously aired)

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