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As Holy Week arrives, Kate talks with theologian, poet, and former Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams about joy that doesn’t erase sorrow. Together they explore longing, grief, music, gratitude, hope, and the strange, defiant way joy can sit right beside pain without denying what’s true.
SHOW NOTES
George Herbert, “The Pulley”
Nick Cave
Hannah Coulter by Wendell Berry
Tour dates & tickets: katebowler.com/joyfulanyway
Watch the live conversation on YouTube
Join Kate Bowler on Substack for the season of Lent: katebowler.substack.com
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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As Holy Week arrives, Kate talks with theologian, poet, and former Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams about joy that doesn’t erase sorrow. Together they explore longing, grief, music, gratitude, hope, and the strange, defiant way joy can sit right beside pain without denying what’s true.
SHOW NOTES
George Herbert, “The Pulley”
Nick Cave
Hannah Coulter by Wendell Berry
Tour dates & tickets: katebowler.com/joyfulanyway
Watch the live conversation on YouTube
Join Kate Bowler on Substack for the season of Lent: katebowler.substack.com
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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