This week on Typology, I sat down with the brilliant and buoyant Margaret Feinberg—author, teacher, and Enneagram 7 with an 8 wing.

We talked about her new book, The God You Need to Know, and what it means to experience the Holy Spirit’s presence—not just in the highs of life, but in the valleys too. Margaret opened up about facing surgery just before her book launch, navigating the exhaustion that comes with being “on” all the time, and how her joy had to be redefined in the midst of cancer.

We also explored how ADHD traits can show up in Enneagram Sevens, what it’s like being married to a Type 5, and how learning to rest isn’t easy when you live in a world that never slows down. Margaret also offered a fresh perspective on the Holy Spirit—not just in the New Testament, but throughout Scripture.

It’s a conversation about joy that makes room for sorrow, faith that’s been through the fire, and a Spirit who meets us in the mess.

As you listen, take a moment to consider:

• What does true rest look like for you?

• Has your understanding of the Holy Spirit grown or shifted over time?

• Can you recall a time when joy and suffering existed side by side in your story?

This week on Typology I had the joy of sitting down with author Hanna Howard, an Enneagram Four with a Five wing. Hanna’s not only the author of the young adult fantasy novel Our Divine Mischief, but also a great example of how our Enneagram type shapes the stories we tell — on paper and in life.

We talk about what sets a 4w5 apart — that mix of emotional depth and intellectual curiosity. While a 4w3 may lean toward image and achievement, Hanna shares how her Five wing draws her inward, toward reflection, research, and a rich world of ideas.

Hanna opens up about her lifelong search for authenticity — that familiar Four longing to feel significant — and shares a moment from her college years when a single line from Twelfth Night put words to that ache for belonging.

Of course, we talk about Our Divine Mischief — Hanna’s alternate-history fantasy set in a magical version of Scotland. At its core, it’s a story about belonging, something every Four knows well, complete with a wish-granting dog (yes, really).

It’s a rich conversation about creativity, personality, and the longing we all carry to belong. I hope you enjoy it. And if you’re looking for a beautiful read, check out Our Divine Mischief.

🎧 Listen wherever you get your podcasts. And as always — stay curious.

In this episode of the Typology Podcast, we dive deep into the art of conflict resolution with our special guest, James Ginn, author of the new book How to Get Along with Anyone: The Playbook for Predicting and Preventing Conflict at Work and at Home.

Join us as we explore the five distinct conflict styles: Avoiders, Competitors, Collaborators, Accommodators, and Analyzers. James shares insights on how these typologies influence our reactions during conflicts and how understanding them can lead to better relationships both at work and at home.

We discuss:

• The three types of conflict: task, process, and relational.

• How to identify your own conflict style and triggers.

• Practical strategies for navigating conflicts with different personality types.

• The importance of emotional intelligence in resolving disputes.

Whether you're a conflict resolution specialist or someone who simply wants to improve your interpersonal relationships, this episode is packed with valuable insights and actionable advice.

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Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 00:10 - Meet James Ginn 00:53 - Understanding the Enneagram and conflict styles 02:08 - Identifying your conflict style 02:35 - The three types of conflict 04:20 - Communication preferences in conflict 05:42 - How to approach conflict resolution 10:01 - The role of emotional triggers 11:50 - Tone of communication in conflict 20:22- The importance of assessing conflict situations 30:58 - Final thoughts on conflict resolution and Enneagram types

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In this heartfelt episode of Typology, Anthony and I sit down with Elizabeth Husserl—an Enneagram One with a Two wing and the author of the beautiful new book The Power of Enough: Finding Joy in Your Relationship with Money.

Elizabeth's story begins over two decades ago when she first encountered the Enneagram. What followed was nothing short of transformational. Her work with the Enneagram didn’t just shape her inner life—it helped heal her marriage and completely reframed her understanding of wealth. In our conversation, she invites us to imagine a richer, more expansive definition of money—one rooted in connection, belonging, and wholeness rather than scarcity and striving.

Together, we explore:

• How the Enneagram can deepen personal growth and strengthen relationships

• Elizabeth’s evolving relationship with money and what it’s taught her

• The role of financial “DNA” and how we can begin to rewrite our inherited money stories

• Grounded practices for living with “enoughness” in every area of life

If you're curious about how the Enneagram intersects with your financial story—or simply hungry for a more soulful approach to money—this episode is full of wisdom, vulnerability, and grace.

You can learn more about Elizabeth’s work at ElizabethHusserl.com, and follow her on Instagram @ElizabethHusserl for more insights.

Have you ever felt overwhelmed in your relationships or struggled with the mental load? If yes, this episode is a must-listen!

In this episode, Dr. Morgan Cutlip, an Enneagram 9 and author of the new book, A Better Share reveals how understanding her Enneagram type has shaped her approach to relationships, especially with her husband, who is a Type 3. We explore the dynamics of their relationship, including the challenges of maintaining connection while navigating the complexities of life and parenting. Morgan shares her journey of reclaiming her voice and agency, which is particularly resonant for those of us who identify with the steady, reliable nature of the Enneagram 9.

One of the key topics we discuss is the concept of the "mental load"—the invisible tasks and emotional labor that often fall disproportionately on women in relationships. Morgan provides practical insights on how couples can tackle this load together, fostering a more equitable partnership that leads to less resentment and greater fun!

Here are a few highlights from the episode:

• The importance of understanding your partner's Enneagram type to improve communication and connection.

• How to navigate feelings of resentment and the need for appreciation in relationships.

• Strategies for creating a more balanced share of responsibilities at home.

Whether you're a 9, a 3, or any other type, this episode offers valuable insights that can help you strengthen your relationships and enhance your emotional well-being.

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In this episode of Typology, we take a look at the fascinating intersection of the Enneagram and relationships with our special guest, Crista Hardin, a relationship expert and author of "The Enneagram in Marriage." Christa, an Enneagram 7, brings her vibrant energy and insights to the conversation, discussing how her type influences her marriage and her work with couples.

We explore the complexities of anxiety in Sevens, the importance of understanding core fears in relationships, and how different Enneagram types interact with one another. Christa shares her personal experiences, including her journey through marriage and the challenges she and her husband have faced over nearly 30 years together.

Throughout the episode, we touch on the dynamics of various type pairings, the challenges and transformations that can arise in relationships, and the significance of emotional regulation and understanding in conflict resolution. Christa emphasizes the importance of recognizing our own flaws and the value of shared meaning in relationships.

Join us for this enlightening discussion that not only sheds light on the Enneagram but also offers practical insights for navigating the complexities of love and partnership. Don't forget to check out Christa's podcast, "Enneagram and Marriage," and her website for more resources!

You can find Christa's website, blog, freebies, and Enneagram & Marriage podcast links at www.enneagramandmarriage.com.

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This week we welcome the incredible Mary Marantz, an Enneagram 4 and author of the new book, Underestimated: The Surprisingly Simple Shift to Quit Playing Small, Name the Fear, and Move Forward Anyway.

In this episode, we dive deep into the transformative power of understanding our Enneagram types and how they shape our narratives. Mary shares her personal journey of self-discovery, revealing how she once identified as a self-preserving 4 and the profound impact that realization had on her life.

We explore the moments in our childhoods that made us feel different, the stories we tell ourselves, and how those narratives can either limit or liberate us. Mary opens up about her experiences growing up in rural West Virginia and how they influenced her drive for perfectionism and the need to be seen and valued.

Here are some highlights you won’t want to miss:

• The significance of recognizing our core longings and how they shape our identities.

• A candid discussion on the fears that hold us back, including perfectionism, people-pleasing, and imposter syndrome.

• Insights into how we can redefine what a "big life" means for us, moving beyond societal expectations.

Mary’s wisdom and vulnerability shine through as she encourages us to embrace our stories, both the beautiful and the painful. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to understand themselves better and to find the courage to move forward.

Tune in now to hear this enlightening conversation and discover how you can start to shift your own narrative!

In this episode of Typology, we dive deep into the world of the Enneagram with our special guest, Thais Gibson, an Enneagram Two with a Three wing. Thais is a counselor, best-selling author, and co-founder of the Personal Development School, bringing a wealth of knowledge and experience to our conversation.

Join Ian Cron and co-host Anthony Skinner as they explore Thais's journey of self-discovery, healing, and the challenges of being a Two. Thais shares her insights on codependency, the importance of setting boundaries, and how her experiences with pain have shaped her understanding of personal growth.

We also discuss the intersection of addiction and attachment theory, revealing how our early experiences influence our relationships with ourselves and others. Thais offers valuable strategies for transforming maladaptive behaviors and fostering a secure attachment to both ourselves and the divine.

Whether you're familiar with the Enneagram or just starting your journey, this episode is packed with wisdom and practical advice for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of themselves and their relationships.

Key Topics:

• Thais's journey as an Enneagram Two

• The impact of childhood experiences on adult relationships

• Codependency and the importance of boundaries

• Healing through pain and personal growth

• Attachment theory and its relevance to addiction

• Strategies for fostering secure attachments

Don't miss this rich conversation that promises to inspire and empower you on your personal development journey!

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In this powerful episode of Typology, I’m honored to sit down with Enneagram 8, Dr. Brad Reedy, co-founder and chief clinical officer of Finding You Therapy Programs, Together, we explore the profound impact of therapy and self-acceptance on the transformative journey of self-discovery and healing.

Brad opens up about his journey as a therapist and how his work has profoundly impacted families, including my own. We dive into his flagship program, Finding You, which offers an immersive experience designed to help participants explore their family of origin and understand how their past shapes their present.

One of the most powerful themes we discuss is the importance of vulnerability. Brad shares a poignant insight from his therapist: “The suicidal impulse is correct, but the mistake is thinking you have to kill the whole self. You just need to learn which part of yourself needs to die.” This profound perspective can help us all recognize that our greatest weaknesses can become our greatest assets.

We also touch on the Enneagram and how understanding our core motivations can lead to deeper self-awareness and healthier relationships. Brad’s candid reflections on his own struggles with vulnerability and the journey of self-acceptance are both inspiring and relatable.

Whether you’re familiar with the Enneagram or just starting your journey of self-discovery, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we explore the audacity to be ourselves and learn to love our “horrible, rotten selves.”

Tune in now to hear this rich conversation and discover how you can apply these insights to your own life.

This week on Typology, I sat down with my dear friend, therapist and spiritual director, Michael Cusick for a raw, wise, and deeply compassionate conversation about the connection between attachments and our path to healing.

Michael—founder of Restoring the Soul and a true guide for the journey inward—helps us unpack the idea that our symptoms (anxiety, compulsions, burnout, you name it) aren’t signs we’re broken…but sacred signals that our soul is calling for care.

We talk about:

• How trauma, shame, and burnout stand in the way of our relationship with God 
• Why “trying harder” doesn’t lead to transformation
• What spiritual bypassing actually looks like—and how to avoid it
• The Four S’s of attachment -- seeing, soothing, safety, and security – and the crucial role they play in spiritual healing

This is one of those episodes you’ll want to listen to more than once and maybe share with a friend who’s in the thick of it.

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