With South Australia's economy treading water and facing some rough seas, we talk to Chris Burns from the Defence Teaming Centre about the prospect of this state being the base for building Australia's next fleet of submarines.

Chris has been talking with the Japanese, French and Germans, and has some insights to share.


Chris also shares insights into submarine design around the world, rivalries between the different branches of our defence forces, political interference in the defence industry, and favourite submarine movies.

In IS IT NEWS, Nigel tests us on the theme, Submarines.

Max Martin asks: "is swimming the answer to your problems?"

Our SA Drink of the week is a Shiraz from the Coonawarra.

George Inglis reflects on this tumultuous week in politics.

In music, we hear a song launched this week by Ollie English.

In the Adelaide Visa Council, more defendants.

But first, David Washington from In Daily presents his midweek news wrap, Talk Of The Town.

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