Ben and David talk about Scratchman! It has been over forty years since Tom Baker and Ian Marter had lunch in the pub and came up with the idea for a Doctor Who movie in which our hero would battle the Devil. Does the novel based on these boozy mid-1970s ideas that Tom wrote with James Goss hold up? How does it compare to what has been previously published about the script? Listen in as David discusses listening to Tom read his story and compare notes with Ben who read it himself off the printed page. Opening music is from Simon Power's sound design for the Scratchman audio book. Closing music is from the Grateful Dead's "Friend of the Devil."