No marriage is perfect, but how do you know when a relationship is in trouble and needs counseling? On this episode Kim Wier is joined by clinical psychologist and relationship specialist Dr. David Hawkins to share advice on when and how professional counseling is beneficial to renewing friendship and intimacy in marriage. Dr. Hawkins in the author of Why Marriage Counseling Fails: Is the Problem the Marriage―or the Counselor? Kim Wier is a speaker, radio talk show host, Bible teacher, and author of the book, The Art of Friendship and other titles.   The Art of Friendship Podcast is part of Hope On Demand!