Join our PATREON for bonus episodes.⁠ 

This week we have celebrated artist, illustrator, and animator Dessie Jackson on the pod to discuss the seminal Say Anything album ...Is A Real Boy. We also discuss: Andrew doesn't apologize, the Swiss Cheese Pervert survivor gofundme, The Philly Avengers, the Action News theme, hanging out at your friend's job, Red Bull, Corrupted Image, Jury Duty, stop motion, Marilyn Minter, Real Skateboards, listening through the lens of age, leading off with sexuality, penis on every track, Max Bemis, child safety, straight outta the asylum, "Alive With the Glory of Love", there are warning signs everywhere, the push and pull of art, ADMIT IT!, we define "penultimate", and so much more. 

________

⁠Order our Gatekeep Harder shirt here!⁠⁠

// Follow us at ⁠@danbassini⁠, ⁠@mysprocalledlife⁠, @dessiejackson and ⁠@runintotheground⁠.