“The goal is how can we have a rich life and that's not measured in dollars. Dollars are nice, but it ain't the answer.” - Matt Kursh

My next guest is Matt Kursh. He founded Clearview (later sold to Apple.) Then he founded eShop (later sold to Microsoft.) Then he ran MSN, the #4 largest website at the time. Today he is the CEO and the co-founder of Oji Life Lab.

We talked about:

• Why the entrepreneur dream of selling to big companies is not a very good dream
• The paradox of business goal-setting
• Why the concept he coined ‘optionFUL’ is especially important for people who must control all aspects of their lives
• He gave a piece of tactical advice to deal with people who want you to project more certainty than reality
• Why he continues to start companies after selling 2 to Microsoft and Apple
• We talked about why emotional intelligence for working adults is important and the potential downfall for any organization if emotional contagions don’t have emotional intelligence. and the potential life-saving moments when people are equipped with these skills 
• Oji Life Lab’s unique approach to mapping out the emotional landscape and give people the tools to get around from point A to point B
• The 5 areas of emotional intelligence help you in concrete ways: decision making, attention memory learning, creativity performance, mental physical health, relationship quality
• Lastly, his straight feedback to fellow CEOs and founders who think their anxiety is the source of their edge

Please enjoy my conversation with the CEO of Oji Life Lab, Matt Kursh

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