This week on The Penguin Magic Podcast Erik talks to Vinny Grosso. One of the very first interviews ever recorded Vinny is a former president of The Society of American Magicians, a co-chair of a number of prestigious magic contests, has appeared on America's Got Talent and Pen & Teller: Fool Us! Nick Locapo stops by the podcast to talk about the Paul Curry effect Touch. Desert Island Magic Books gets a visit from Ben Young fresh off his most recent tour.