The show starts with Nick & Erik discussing the latest tricks, and then an in-depth discussion on the new David Blaine Show: Do Not Attempt. After that, the main event is Lady Sarah and Keith Fields discussing the incredible lineup at The Michigan Magic Day. Find out how you can see Steve Valentine and David Parr perform on the same stage!

David Jonathan stops by the show to discuss his new effect Instrumental, as well as discuss his collaborations with Nikolas Mavresis. Stay tuned to the end of the show for some announcements on format changes and exciting new places you can listen to the show!

Gabriel Werlen has taken the world by storm with The Green Neck System, his incredible thoughts and theories on propless mentalism. Nothing feels procedural, and it gives the illusion of real mind-reading. Gabriel shares his creative process, how he converts his work from French to English using AI, and so much more.

Caroline Ravn works for some of the largest magic corporations in the world, and she shares some of those secrets with you. She also discusses her appearances at TedX and going from the church to the stage. Nick and Erik kick off the show by discussing the Penguin Magic Awards, is Jibrizy Dead, and David Blaine's new show.

Erik Casey is a well-known creator and performer who has released monster hit effects Poker Test and POW. Now, he talks about discovering a principle he thought he had invented in a pamphlet from the 30's. An in-depth conversation about parallel creation and how to make your magic your own. The show kicks off with Erik Tait and Nick discussing how they make the props for their shows.

Felice Ling is a street and stage performer who is one of the prime moving forces behind The Boston Magic Lab. She has put up and coming performers on her  stage right along side living legends, and she shares the secrets of how to get your own show started.

The Boston Magic Lab - https://www.bostonmagiclab.com/

Erik Tait gives you a convention report on the very last Winter Carnival of Magic and the very first Mystify Magic Festival. Hear about the shows, the sessions, the Dealer's Room, and the incredible talent assembled for the last of one convention and the first of another.

Also now is your opportunity to try and get the Penguin Magic Podcast nominated for The Best Podcast at FISM 2025. Follow this link and write us in as your preferred Podcast Choice.

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Erik has been on the road with two different magic conventions and technical problems have resulted in a delay of the podcast. We will be back tomorrow with a full brain dump and recap of The Winter Carnival of Magic and The Mystify Magic Festival! Thanks for listening.

Jonah Babins has hosted the Discourse In Magic podcast for nine years. He has interviewed some of the most prominent names in magic and built a reputation for asking interesting and engaging questions. Latley he has turned his eye to business consulting and is helping magicians around the world dramatically increase their revenues. He stops by the show to discuss his Mastermind workshop and how you can grow your magic business.

Tom Vorjohan is the vice-chair and entertainment director for The Winter Carnival of Magic. This fifty-year-old convention is coming to an end. Tom shares the history, gives insight into what it's like to book a convention, and previews the insane lineup. This convention is going to be legendary, and you have an opportunity to be at the final one!

Convention Registration: https://wintercarnivalofmagic.com/