Chloé is a writer and entrepreneur whose company, Theory of Enchantment, offers an alternative to conventional anti-racism training. Instead of focusing on dualistic thinking and division, Chloé’s company embraces and promotes love and compassion. We speak about the importance of accepting and embodying our own individual complexities and polarities as a means to accept others. We discuss the West’s (and our own individual) obsession with controlling and predicting, which inevitably leads to abuses of power. We also talk about meaningful relationship as an antidote to power grabbing, the importance of channeling anger as opposed to identifying with it, and how real change will require that we get back into our bodies and feel our feelings.

Find Chloé at TheoryofEnchantment.com, Instagram, and Twitter, and listen to her podcast The Heart Speaks

Chloé’s Book Recommendations: The Way of Woman by Helen Luke and The Master and His Emissary by Iain McGilchrist

Songs featured: “Dreamer” by Arisha Badru and “You Make Loving Fun” by Fleetwood Mac

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