Richard Frishman and B. Brian Foster, Ph.D. are the duo behind the incredible new book Ghosts of Segregation: American Racism, Hidden in Plain Sight.

Rich is an award-winning photojournalist who spent several years traveling the country, photographing signs of American racism in our built environment. Brian is a professor of sociology at the University of Virginia with a focus on documenting and interpreting the culture, folklore, and placemaking practices of Black communities in the rural U.S. South.

They join Heath to discuss racism's past and present in the United States, the importance of documenting history, and how art can help us engage in difficult conversations.

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