John in 1967-1968, a senior at Alamo High School at Alamo, Tennessee.

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Len inquires how John got interested into the MLK assassination and the set up of James Earl Ray.

John lives in Alamo, Tennessee, about 75 miles northeast of Memphis.

John was a senior in high school in the spring of 1968 when Martin Luther King was assassinated.

After high school, John attended Memphis State University, obtaining his master's degree while living in Memphis.

From the start, John had inside information about the situation with James Earl Ray.

Harry S. Avery, John's maternal Great Uncle was Commissioner of Corrections at the time in 1969.

Prior to this, Mr. Avery had been a government arson investigator for years, started an independent MLK investigation.

Mr. Avery had worked with the prosecution on the Jimmy Hoffa Chattanooga jury tampering case.

John's curious and inquisitive uncle, Harry Smith Avery died December 18, 1989 at Dandridge, Tennessee.

Before Harry died, John had several talks about Harry's investigation into James Earl Ray.

Harry was fired by Governor Buford Ellington after two months of his investigating.

James entered Brushy Mountain Correction Complex on March 21, 1970.

As a reporter for the Oakridger, a daily paper, John was able to interview James Earl Ray

Twice in person at Brushy Mountain.

You wouldn't hire James Earl Ray to wash your car, he would mess something up. James was not a mastermind.

When met Ray, James had already been in prison for 12 years or so, becoming well read with his excess time in prison.

Even with all of the reading James had done while in prison, John could still tell he wasn't highly intelligent.

Len and John discuss the catalyst that inspired John to start an independent investigation into MLK's murder.

John's uncle had overheard a phone conversation while at the Govenor's office, when James Earl Ray was being discussed.

This conversation was heard BEFORE James Earl Ray had the opportunity to go to court and make the guilty plea.

The person in the office was reassuring the person on the phone that James was going to plead guilty, with no trial.

Who was the person on the other end of the phone? The Attorney General? It was definitely a person of authority.

While attending to his laundry one day, an interview with Gerald Posner was aired, filled with disinfo, infuriating John.

Len created "50 Reasons For 50 Years" video series for the 50th anniversary of JFK's assassination for the same reason.

Since the early 90's, John knew that it was in his future to write a book regarding what he knew about MLK's murder.

The first time John met James at Brushy Mountain in the early 90's, it was a contact visit, where they shook hands.

It appeared as if there wasn't a serious amount of observation to their meeting by security, communication was easy.

James Earl Ray gave John 2 cassette tapes, that James had had in his jail cell for the past 12 years in his cell.

These recordings were of John's uncle, Harry Smith Avery! Avery had been interviewed by Ray's wife!

In the recordings, Avery talks about suspicious letters that came in to Ray, including one with a McGill University letterhead!

It was clear to John that the assassination was being orchestrated by military intelligence. McGill = MKUltra

Ray identified the person who directed him and gave him money.

The government denies the existence of Ray having a handler.

Who was Raoul? What is Raoul's true identity? Clearly both the Canadian and American governments know.

Len and John agree that if you look at any one aspect of this case, it falls apart!