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Today, I'm going to talk to Tarik and Jackie Burton from Santa Barbara, California. They've been serving as campus ministers at UC Santa Barbara for the past four years. They were recently hired to lead the entire church. They are a young couple and have a nearly two-year-old daughter, Kya. Tarik will also be a main speaker at the Climb Small Church Leadership Conference in Dallas. In this episode they talk about: • How they felt when asked to lead an entire church. • What's the difference between leading in a church and leading the church? • What are the advantages and challenges of leading an established church while relatively young? • What Tarik plans on preaching on at the Climb Small Church Leadership Conference in Dallas in December of 2021. All this and more on the Rob Skinner Podcast!