See https://imaginize.world/debbie-urbanski-podcast/ for transcript.
We talked about her first novel, After World, and Debbie explained her unusual idea of a Great Transition and a New Awakening. She is comfortable talking about the conflicting priorities we face with climate crisis, and the choice between preserving human life and/or  earth. AI is more than “artificial intelligence” in After World. It is a strong force that comes alive as it witnesses the life of the last human on earth and falls in love.

IMAGINIZE.WORLD The goal is to shape our future before it shapes us. YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ImaginizeWorld.
Also see A Global Vision for 2043 from 200 people around the world.