In this episode we 'swap laughs and company' as we explore the worlds of two, great, Adelaide mates, David Minear and John Schumann.

In surfing parlance, tonight's conversation is like a bombora that we surf all the way back safely to shore!

John Schumann discusses Redgum, songwriting, Australia, cars, family, Henry Lawson, attitudes to the nuclear industry, ice cream and PTSD.

David Minear discusses advertising, Young and Rubicam, Mitsubishi, Sigma, Adelaide Fringe, West End advertising, Henry Lawson, Golden North, Kojo, the film industry and being a chairman of different boards.

And despite all those topics, we hardly scratched the surface with these guys. We hope to get them back one day!

IS IT NEWS picked up on the surfing theme, giving David a slight advantage, given his business, Bombora, is a haven for surf music recording in Australia. We didn't even dip our toes into that water tonight.

Our wine this week is stunning: the 2013 Joker from The Mysterious Mr Black

Max Martin has picked up on David's take up of long distance running later in life in our Made To Move Minute

Music this week is a song being officially released tomorrow by Reuben Gore

And we have an appeal in the Adelaide Visa Council as well as a sticky situation for the Adelaide Fringe Ambassador, Julian Clary

But we started with David Washington from InDaily with his midweek news wrap, Talk Of The Town

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