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Daniel and Jack are joined by special guest, South African anti-disinformation advocate, Bianca van Wyk, to discuss the issue of 'South African farm murders', the reality vs the right-wing narrative, some of the bad actors pushing the fake version of the story, and the links to the 'white genocide' conspiracy theory. Bianca helps us get the whole thing into proper context, especially re South Africa's history and current politics. Also discussed: the recent fast-tracking of refugee status for white South Africans by the Trump administration, the US Right's embrace of the South African far-right's propaganda, the 'Kill the Boer!' chant and what it really means, Elon Musk, and the recent reprogramming of X's AI chatbot Grok.
Content Warnings apply.
Episode Notes:
X @biancavanwyk16
TikTok @BiancaSays3
YouTube @WhiteWhineTalks
Sour Grapes — The Toxic Vintage of White Whine by Bianca https://iol.co.za/news/politics/2024-05-16-bianca-van-wyk-sour-grapes-the-toxic-vintage-of-white-whine/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/23/trump-orders-close-study-of-south-africa-farmer-killings
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/23/white-farmers-trump-south-africa-tucker-carlson-far-right-influence
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/09/us-grants-asylum-to-54-white-afrikaner-south-africans
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-whites-south-africa-us-fdef8e9d4d2186227f75b817d8e1d7eb
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/14/elon-musk-grok-white-genocide
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-x-grok-white-genocide-holocaust-1235341267/
https://www.404media.co/why-did-grok-start-talking-about-white-genocide/
https://newrepublic.com/article/195383/trump-south-africans-takes-immigration
https://apnews.com/video/trump-defends-admitting-white-south-africans-as-refugees-after-halting-resettlement-for-most-others-b3e74c6b4e584a02b798f7598dfd2132
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/14/us/politics/trump-south-africa-afrikaners.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/us/politics/white-south-africans-refugees.html
https://www.levernews.com/trump-taps-refugee-fund-to-welcome-white-south-africans-within-days/
https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/trumps-south-africa-tweet-tucker-carlson-has-turned-white-nationalist-narrative
https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/tucker-carlson-injected-white-nationalist-propaganda-into-the-presidents-brain
https://theconversation.com/south-africas-white-right-the-alt-right-and-the-alternative-103544
https://jacobin.com/2025/03/musk-looks-to-the-motherland
https://jacobin.com/2025/02/musk-south-africa-white-far-right
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyj1198wy3o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-45336840
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wg5pg1xp5o
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2q937wlqgo
https://harpers.org/archive/2019/03/the-myth-of-white-genocide-in-south-africa/?curator=alphaideas
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/dangerous-myth-white-genocide-south-africa/
Show Notes:
Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay ad-free and independent. Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month plus all backer-only back-episodes.
Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts
Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true
IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod
Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper
Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_
Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social
Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social
IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1
3.8
975975 ratings
Daniel and Jack are joined by special guest, South African anti-disinformation advocate, Bianca van Wyk, to discuss the issue of 'South African farm murders', the reality vs the right-wing narrative, some of the bad actors pushing the fake version of the story, and the links to the 'white genocide' conspiracy theory. Bianca helps us get the whole thing into proper context, especially re South Africa's history and current politics. Also discussed: the recent fast-tracking of refugee status for white South Africans by the Trump administration, the US Right's embrace of the South African far-right's propaganda, the 'Kill the Boer!' chant and what it really means, Elon Musk, and the recent reprogramming of X's AI chatbot Grok.
Content Warnings apply.
Episode Notes:
X @biancavanwyk16
TikTok @BiancaSays3
YouTube @WhiteWhineTalks
Sour Grapes — The Toxic Vintage of White Whine by Bianca https://iol.co.za/news/politics/2024-05-16-bianca-van-wyk-sour-grapes-the-toxic-vintage-of-white-whine/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/23/trump-orders-close-study-of-south-africa-farmer-killings
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/23/white-farmers-trump-south-africa-tucker-carlson-far-right-influence
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/09/us-grants-asylum-to-54-white-afrikaner-south-africans
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-whites-south-africa-us-fdef8e9d4d2186227f75b817d8e1d7eb
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/14/elon-musk-grok-white-genocide
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-x-grok-white-genocide-holocaust-1235341267/
https://www.404media.co/why-did-grok-start-talking-about-white-genocide/
https://newrepublic.com/article/195383/trump-south-africans-takes-immigration
https://apnews.com/video/trump-defends-admitting-white-south-africans-as-refugees-after-halting-resettlement-for-most-others-b3e74c6b4e584a02b798f7598dfd2132
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/14/us/politics/trump-south-africa-afrikaners.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/us/politics/white-south-africans-refugees.html
https://www.levernews.com/trump-taps-refugee-fund-to-welcome-white-south-africans-within-days/
https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/trumps-south-africa-tweet-tucker-carlson-has-turned-white-nationalist-narrative
https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/tucker-carlson-injected-white-nationalist-propaganda-into-the-presidents-brain
https://theconversation.com/south-africas-white-right-the-alt-right-and-the-alternative-103544
https://jacobin.com/2025/03/musk-looks-to-the-motherland
https://jacobin.com/2025/02/musk-south-africa-white-far-right
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyj1198wy3o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-45336840
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wg5pg1xp5o
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2q937wlqgo
https://harpers.org/archive/2019/03/the-myth-of-white-genocide-in-south-africa/?curator=alphaideas
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/dangerous-myth-white-genocide-south-africa/
Show Notes:
Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay ad-free and independent. Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month plus all backer-only back-episodes.
Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts
Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true
IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod
Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper
Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_
Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social
Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social
IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1
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