The values of our modern world are individualism, productivity, and efficiency, and while not bad things in themselves, they have so crept into our Christian experience unnoticed. In fact, they have been adopted and Christianized--used to justify ministry, busy-ness, and the inhumanity of man. What if God wants something altogether different for us? What if He wants us to not only make disciples but be disciples? That's what we are talking about today!

Travis welcomes Kelly Kapic to the show and they discuss what it means to be human in the midst of an inhuman world.

Enjoy some laughs and deep thoughts that are sure to help you understand your place in your world!

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