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This episode covers the first day and first lesson of The Climb Small Church Leadership Conference held in Dallas, Texas, December 2-5, 2021.  I interview the Thursday night speaker, Todd Asaad, along with the conference organizers, Joel Peed and Joel Nagel.  In this episode:

• Todd talks about his lesson on relationships entitled "Climb Together"
• We discuss our reaction to Todd's lesson and to the opening of the conference
• Joel Peed discusses the Friday program on spiritual renewal