On today's episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC and DG are joined by special guest and Drift co-founder and CTO, Elias Torres. Together, they talk through how to hire people who can go from individual contributor to VP. It comes down to 4 things. 1) Come from humble beginnings. You need to be hungry. 2) Ability to get sh*t done. Do the work. 3) The "It" factor. Uncommon charisma and presence. 4) Humility. Be Ego-free. Stay humble as you grow in your career. They break it all down in this episode of Seeking Wisdom. Before you go leave a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review and share the pod with your friends! Be sure to check out more insights on the Drift blog at drift.com/blog and find us on Twitter @davegerhardt, @dcancel, @eliast and @seekingwisdomio.   In This Episode: 0:53 - The Culture Code 1:38 - Consistency with Seeking Wisdom is coming. 2:30 - The team discusses their trips to Europe. 5:00 - Hiring Lessons from Elias Torres 6:12 - The value of coming from humble beginnings 7:04 - The ability to get sh*t done 7:17 - The “It” factor 8:15 - Ego-free individuals that have humility 9:12 - Elias Torres talks about his time starting at Drift. 10:42 - Hiring for Marketing 11:58 - DC’s Marketing background 14:00 - Looking beyond the profile for hiring 14:40 - Marketing’s need for someone who can grab your attention 17:50 - The dark ten years 19:00 - Do the work to find the right person. 19:27 - Put yourself in the right company. 20:30 - Read Blitzscaling 21:29 - Where would you find another DG? 23:50 - Be around people that push you. 24:55 - Recap   Books mentioned in this episode:  Blitzscaling: The Lightning-fast Path to Building Massively Valuable Companies by Reid Hoffman, Chris Yeh and Bill Gates The Culture Code: The Secrets of Highly Successful Groups by Daniel Coyle