I had Ben Fleming on to talk about a subject that has occupied his focus of late, that of "art" and why it is so bad today.

My apologies to the listener. I had to cut Ben off short when we were recording because something came up suddenly in this thing known as “real life,” whatever that is. We plan of finishing up the discussion next week focusing more exclusively on what happened to art in the 20th century.

You can find Ben’s series on art here: https://www.youtube.com/@R…

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