Jon and Thai explore why parish teams can be faithful, busy, and well-intentioned—yet still stuck. The problem isn’t effort or motivation, but misalignment caused by unclear communication, vague vision, and meetings that don’t lead to decisions.

Through concrete parish examples, they show how vague agreement (“yeah, we should do that”) without named ownership or follow-up quietly breeds frustration. When vision isn’t clear or actionable, every ministry feels urgent, priorities disappear, and leaders struggle to say no.

The conversation reframes meetings as decision-making engines rather than information dumps and highlights simple rhythms that restore clarity. The episode closes with a challenge to steward time well so leaders can spend less energy maintaining programs and more time actually ministering to people.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

Parish teams stall not from lack of care, but from unclear communication.

Misalignment happens when decisions and ownership aren’t named in real time.

Vision must be concrete to function as a real decision-making filter.

Meetings that don’t produce decisions quietly create confusion.

When leaders steward time well, ministry shifts from maintaining programs to serving people.

NOTABLE QUOTES

“When everything feels important, nothing actually is.”

“Unclear roles aren’t the real problem. The real problem is that no one ever names the decision.”

“Meetings don’t create alignment. Decisions do.”

“There’s a real joy that comes from actually ministering to people, not just pulling off another program night.”