Live in Phoenix, Arizona at the UFO Congress, round robin, Ryan Sprague, Robert Farrell, Alejandro Rojas, Linda Zimmermann, Kathleen Marden, Stanton Friedman, and Travis Walton, don’t forget George in the audience. We all talk about the state of UFOlogy, Bob Lazar, and Kathy Marden talks about her family’s abduction experience. The UFO Congress is hosted by Open Minds and takes place every February in Phoenix Arizona.