"Tune in for a deep conversation about creativity, psychology, and artistic growth!"

What is Flow in the creative process—and how do we find it? In this episode of Jung at Harp, Deborah Henson-Conant and Kathleen Wiley explore what it means to be "in the flow" and how fluency and groundedness support our creative expression.

Through the lens of music and Jungian psychology, they discuss how systems and structure—like having your harp tuned or your earbuds in place—can create the space for creativity to flourish. They touch on how curved paths, not just straight lines, are often what guide us toward discovery and artistic growth.

This conversation invites you to explore the balance between freedom and form, routine and release, and how staying grounded in the present moment helps unlock new creative possibilities.

Whether you're a musician, writer, or deep thinker, this episode will inspire you to lean into structure—not as restriction, but as a rhythm that supports your most meaningful expression.

Disclaimer: There may be minor audio drops in this episode, but the conversation is rich and easy to follow.