unMASKing with Male Educators: Creating Emotionally Safe Classrooms & Schools for Male Students

140. It’s Scary to be Curious - with Jeremy Mohler, Therapist, Writer, & Meditation Teacher


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“It’s just this cycle I’ve been on for so long. What would it be like to not distract yourself with the work thing, but also not go to the numbing out thing - and just be present in all the stuff? That’s the life I want. I want to feel more.”

Ever Forward Club’s Ashanti Branch is joined by Jeremy Mohler. As a therapist, writer, and meditation teacher, Jeremy offers therapy and life coaching to people struggling with anxiety, depression, and burnout; men navigating modern masculinity; and white people unpacking internalized white racial superiority. But this wasn’t always Jeremy, a former Fortune 500 marketing professional. Why the transformation? We’re excited for you to listen to this conversation and learn how Jeremy tries to lead life with curiosity.

(1:25) Ashanti’s introduction.

(3:25) Jeremy introduces himself, as well as his work as a therapist and men’s work leader.

(8:00) Ashanti and Jeremy discuss “the old recordings” that stay with us and affect how we behave as men. Then, they talk a little NFL football.

(20:10) Jeremy shares the front of his mask - stoic, nice, knowledgeable/sure.

(28:40) Ashanti shares the front of his mask - purpose-driven, dedicated, caring - and Jeremy shares how he values these qualities as well.

(36:50) Ashanti shares the back of his mask - grief, pain, not enough - and both men share how keeping themselves busy with work or other numbing agents distracts them from heartbreak.

(48:15) Jeremy shares the back of his mask - curious, joy, depressed.

(51:10) Jeremy shares how you can get in touch with him.

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Connect with Jeremy Mohler:

Website: jeremymohler.blog

Substack: No Man Is an Island

Instagram: instagram.com/therapist.for.the.99.percent

Twitter: twitter.com/FutureDebris


Create your own mask anonymously at millionmask.org

Email us questions and comments at [email protected] 

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Connect with Ashanti Branch:

Instagram: instagram.com/branchspeaks

Facebook: facebook.com/BranchSpeaks

Twitter: twitter.com/BranchSpeaks

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch

Website: branchspeaks.com

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Support the podcast and the work of the Ever Forward Club: anchor.fm/branch-speaks/support

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