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Full show notes and transcript - https://bit.ly/4ev1DlN
Watch on YouTube - https://youtu.be/ZSDSk6R4ugg
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Episode Summary:
Dara and Matthew spend a week putting OpenAI through its paces (ChatGPT, Codex and deep research) against their daily driver, Claude. A blind four-way experiment building a running-race predictor surfaces a clear split: deep research goes to OpenAI, while coding and long-horizon agent work stay with Claude. They close with a stick-or-twist verdict, taking in Anthropic's recursive self-improvement claims, a near-trillion-dollar valuation, Microsoft's own models, and the case for renaming everything Clippy.
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About The Measure Pod:
The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement, with a side of fun.
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If you liked this episode, don't forget to subscribe to The Measure Pod on your favourite podcast platform and leave us a review. Let's make sense of the analytics industry together!
By MeasurelabFull show notes and transcript - https://bit.ly/4ev1DlN
Watch on YouTube - https://youtu.be/ZSDSk6R4ugg
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Episode Summary:
Dara and Matthew spend a week putting OpenAI through its paces (ChatGPT, Codex and deep research) against their daily driver, Claude. A blind four-way experiment building a running-race predictor surfaces a clear split: deep research goes to OpenAI, while coding and long-horizon agent work stay with Claude. They close with a stick-or-twist verdict, taking in Anthropic's recursive self-improvement claims, a near-trillion-dollar valuation, Microsoft's own models, and the case for renaming everything Clippy.
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About The Measure Pod:
The Measure Pod is your go-to fortnightly podcast hosted by seasoned analytics pros. Join Dara Fitzgerald (Co-Founder at Measurelab) & Matthew Hooson (Head of Engineering at Measurelab) as they dive into the world of data, analytics and measurement, with a side of fun.
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If you liked this episode, don't forget to subscribe to The Measure Pod on your favourite podcast platform and leave us a review. Let's make sense of the analytics industry together!

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