Another day, another argument. Today we discuss the Panthers, the team with the biggest gap between Alexs and Akivas respective preseason ranks. Which Panthers team was anomalous, 2015 or 2016? Tony Dunn from the Carolina Cat Chronicles podcast is here to judge the dispute, but Keev drops off early due to technical issues (read: he wants to finish Game of Thrones).

Todays outro is Carolina Can by Chase Rice.