As a co-founder of the Black Lives Matter movement, and a career as an artist, writer, abolitionist, Patrisse Cullors is one of the most influential figures in contemporary culture of the 21st century. What the Los Angeles-born Cullors has found in art is something quite fascinating in contrast to work as a activist: space to explore the limitations of language and the expansive nature of creating histories in physical form.

I met Cullors at picnic table outside Charlie James Gallery in Los Angeles' Chinatown on the occasion of the artist's first solo show with the gallery, "Between the Warp and Weft: Weaving Shields of Strength and Spirituality." That conversation led to this episode of Radio Juxtapoz, where. Cullors and I discussed the expanded world of activism, her history in making art and the influences of Black American artists in her work and where she sees America at now with the looming elections just months away. —Evan Pricco

The Radio Juxtapoz podcast is hosted by FIFTH WALL TV's Doug Gillen and Juxtapoz editor, Evan Pricco. Episode 148 was recorded in the Los Angeles in August 2024. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@radiojuxtapoz⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠