On this episode we are joined by Jordan Holmes to talk about his book, The Quiet Part Loud. Join us as we dive into a world where the secret cabal is real (and loves tradition), a woman can be president of the United States, and two rich men can fall in love over custom vans...oh and there is a cult that may be the only survivors of the nuclear apocolypse. You can find Jordan's book at https://www.thequietpartloud.com and you can hear Jordan multiple times a week on his podcast Knowledge Fight.

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