CISO Tradecraft®

#148 - Threat Modeling (with Adam Shostack)


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On this episode we bring on the leading expert of threat modeling (Adam Shostack) to discuss the four questions that every team should ask:

  1. What are we working on?
  • What can go wrong?
  • What are we going to do about it?
  • Did we do a good enough job?
  • Big thanks to our sponsor:

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    Adam Shostack's LinkedIn Profile - https://www.linkedin.com/in/shostack/

    Learn more about threat modeling by checking out Adam's books on threat modeling Threats: What Every Engineer Should Learn From Star Wars https://amzn.to/3PFEv7L

    Threat Modeling: Designing for Security https://amzn.to/3ZmfLo7 Also check out the Threat Modeling Manifesto: https://www.threatmodelingmanifesto.org/

    Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tu0Xj9QTbVqbVJNMbNRam-FEUvfda3ZS

    Chapters

    • 00:00 Introduction
  • 06:02 The 4 Questions that allow you to measure twice cut once
  • 09:29 How Data Flow Diagrams help teams
  • 16:04 It's more than just looking at threats
  • 19:23 Chasing the most fluid thing or the most worrisome thing
  • 22:00 All models are wrong and some are useful
  • 26:25 Actionable Remediation
  • 31:05 LLMs and Threat Models
  • ...more
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