This week on Irregardless, Shep sits down with Eric Gilbert, CEO of ANOVA Furnishings — a St. Louis-based company known for crafting commercial-grade outdoor site furnishings like benches, tables, and receptacles. As a second-generation leader, Eric shares what it’s been like taking the reins from his father and steering the business into its next chapter.

The two dive into everything from entrepreneurship at a young age to the power of teamwork, leadership, and evolving a legacy brand in a modern world. Eric reflects on what’s driving ANOVA forward, how he’s strengthened operations, and the importance of surrounding yourself with the right people. He also shares his perspective on emerging technologies like AI and the role they could play in the future of manufacturing.

As a longtime supporter and early believer in Bryzos, Eric’s seen the journey up close — and it shows in the honesty and depth of this conversation. One highlight? Shep asks him the simple yet profound question: “What is a business?” — setting the stage for one of the most thoughtful exchanges we’ve had yet.