November 2020 we released the latest Flint & Steel magazine, on recovery, repair, and reconciliation.

One of the feature articles this year by Shelly Neethling focused on foster care in New Zealand, child development and what can be done for kids from hard places.

Ursula Elisara was a primary voice in Shelly's article. She's the CEO of Immerse, a non-profit foster care agency that trains and supports foster parents to use the evidence based Trust Based Relational Intervention model when providing a home for kids from hard places.

This month Jeremy sat down with Ursula and talked about her life, the realities of foster care in New Zealand, and what it takes to repair trauma in the lives of children.