The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

What does it mean to wrestle with God—and can anyone avoid it? In this lecture, Jordan Peterson takes up a question that reaches beyond the divide between believer and atheist. Drawing on ancient stories and his experience as a clinical psychologist, he explores faith, doubt, and what our choices reveal about what we believe.

Audience questions bring the discussion into the challenges of marriage, parenting, and maintaining discipline when life becomes difficult, connecting the evening’s larger questions to the demands of everyday life.

Recorded live in Phoenix on the We Who Wrestle With God tour.

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What does a man who spent seventy five years living in his father’s tent have to do with the question you have been avoiding about your own life? In this lecture, Jordan Peterson works through the story of Abraham and arrives at the hardest passage in scripture, the moment a father is told to take his only son up a mountain and offer him as a burnt offering. The atheists call it proof of a monstrous God. Peterson thinks they have the story upside down, and getting to why takes him through a savings account, a sports team, a statue Michelangelo carved at twenty four, and the thing every mother does on the first day of school. Then a police officer asks him for one piece of advice, and the answer takes six minutes and costs Moses the promised land. By the end there is a calculation involving twenty minutes, fifty repetitions, and the two percent of your life you could fix this week. What Abraham is actually offered turns out not to be faith in the conventional sense at all, but a trade: everything you are comfortable with, in exchange for something you already know you want more.

This lecture was filmed on March 10, 2024, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

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What does a seventy-year-old man who has never left his father's tent have in common with the first murder ever committed? In this lecture, Jordan Peterson works through the story of Cain and Abel and arrives somewhere nobody expects: a precise, almost clinical account of how resentment is manufactured, step by step, in an ordinary person who believes he has been treated unfairly. Along the way he explains why Freud and Jung both thought Nietzsche's solution was impossible, why your reputation is a better place to store wealth than your bank account, what you are actually doing when you tell your son it matters how he plays the game, and the one experiment he ran on himself that he says is worth the price of the ticket on its own. Then Konstantin Kisin comes out to argue that none of it requires God at all, and the conversation turns to the pill, the family, and a question about what has to change in a culture before a technology becomes thinkable. The story of Cain and Abel turns out to be less about an ancient crime than about a door you have already been offered, and whether you opened it.

This lecture was filmed on April 9, 2024, in New York City, New York.

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Why would a grown man pay money to sit in the dark and be terrified, and what does that have to do with the reason the modern world feels like it is coming apart? In this lecture, Jordan Peterson argues that everything you think you know about how you see the world is backward: that you do not navigate by facts or reason but through a story, and that the direction you secretly aim decides what you are able to perceive at all. From the first date in a crowded restaurant to the three great stories fighting for control of the West, he builds toward an unsettling diagnosis of a civilization living unconsciously on inherited wealth, illustrated by nothing less than a children's cartoon and a myth older than the Bible. Then the writer Konstantin Kisin joins him on stage to push back, and their conversation turns to the hardest question of all, whether the ancient stories are merely useful or actually true, and what it would cost us to find out we cannot live without them.

This lecture was filmed in Nashville, Tennessee, on April 5, 2024.

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What does a golden rope in a dying man's dream have to do with the person in your life you can no longer reach? In this lecture, Jordan Peterson sets out after three questions that turn out to be the same question, what is a man, what is a woman, and what is the highest thing a person can aim at, and pursues them through the strangest doorway imaginable: the despair of the most successful author who ever lived, who had everything a human being could want and still could not find a reason to stay alive. From Tolstoy's vision of something infinite suspended above the abyss, to a treacherous brother who remade himself into the founder of a nation, Peterson builds toward a practical answer with startling reach. And in the most moving moment of the night, his wife Tammy steps on stage to tell the true story of how she won back a sister she was losing, using nothing more than the one thing almost no one is willing to do. What begins as a lecture on identity ends as an instruction manual for getting back the people you thought were gone for good.

This lecture was filmed in San Antonio, Texas, on December 12, 2024.

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What if the reason you feel stuck has nothing to do with your circumstances and everything to do with a story you don't know you're telling? In this lecture, Jordan Peterson sets out to answer a single question, what is and should be the story of your life, and arrives somewhere most people never look: the ancient account of a people escaping slavery, and a shepherd who becomes a leader only once he has grown up. Along the way Peterson argues that tyranny is not first a political fact but a personal one, playing out in your own head, your marriage, and your kitchen before it ever reaches a nation, and that the thing you aim at silently decides everything you are able to see. What begins as a walk from one point to another turns into a map of how an ordinary person is called out of the desert, and a surprisingly practical answer to the oldest complaint of all, that you know what you should do and cannot make yourself do it.

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What does the oldest sibling feud in the Bible have to do with the argument you keep having with the person you love most? In this lecture, delivered improbably in the city of sin, Jordan Peterson takes the story of a twin who cheats his own brother out of everything and uses it to map a single idea he calls aiming up. Starting from something as ordinary as a fight with your spouse that never seems to resolve, Peterson descends, level by level, into what he argues is really going on underneath: a buried betrayal, a broken trust, and a choice between the desire to win and the harder work of peace. Along the way he explains why the cynic is not the intelligent one in the room, why the wealth of an entire nation rests on something as fragile as a handshake, and how a crook with no reason to hope becomes the father of nations. What he arrives at is not a sermon but a description, of the one decision available to you in any moment, no matter how far down you have fallen, and of the strange acceleration that begins the instant you make it.

This lecture was filmed in Las Vegas, Nevada, on May 19, 2024.

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What does the way your attention moves across a crowded restaurant have to do with why civilizations collapse? In this lecture, Jordan Peterson opens where you’d least expect a talk about God to begin—with Richard Dawkins, a problem in cognitive science, and the uncomfortable fact that there are infinitely many true things you could attend to and only a handful you ever do. From there he moves through why you’ll pay money to watch a villain on a screen, what a sleeping lion has to do with your paycheck, and why a man who spent seventy-five years in his father’s tent was the one who finally got the invitation. What he’s building toward isn’t an argument for belief in the conventional sense, but something stranger and much harder to dismiss: that you have already placed the wager, every single time you decided what was worth looking at. The only question left is what you’ve been aiming at all along without admitting it.

This lecture was filmed on March 4th, 2024, in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

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What if the thought that just crossed your mind arrived the same way a prayer is answered? In this lecture, Jordan Peterson opens with a claim that sounds impossible and spends the next ninety minutes making it undeniable: that thinking is a kind of secularized prayer, that every insight you have ever had arrived more like a revelation than like a calculation, and that the direction you aim decides not only what you think but what you are able to see at all. From an ordinary argument with your wife, which Peterson uses to reveal something disturbing about the spirit in which you speak, he moves through a prophet alone in a cave, a man swallowed by the sea for staying silent, and two brothers and a rejected offering, building toward a single answer to the oldest question a person can ask. What faith turns out to be has almost nothing to do with belief in the way you were taught, and everything to do with a decision you are already making, every hour, whether you have noticed it or not.

This lecture was filmed on May 16th, 2024 in Los Angeles, California.

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What does a punk rock concert full of sneering nihilists have to do with the oldest question about how to live? In this lecture, the final numbers of a long tour, Jordan Peterson begins somewhere unexpected: a Ramones show decades ago, where a room full of people who claimed life was meaningless could not stop moving to the music. That contradiction becomes a thread he pulls until something enormous comes loose, a case that the meaning you insist isn't there is woven into the way you perceive, the way you listen, and the aim you set without realizing you have set it. Along the way he takes apart the fantasy of a life without struggle, asks why a seventy-year-old man asleep in comfort is the least enviable figure in the Bible, and arrives, in the quietest moment of the night, at a piece of advice about love so simple and so practical that you will wonder why no one ever told you. What begins with a joke about slam dancing ends with a question you answer every time you decide what to look for.

This lecture was recorded on February 5th, 2024 in Manchester, New Hampshire.

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