The middle ground scramble continues. Elites redefine their positions as if they had it right all along, and explain why they definitely need to be in charge of more stuff. We have been waiting for the reckoning; instead we are getting the anti-reckoning. Herein: how science isn’t done, why the scientific method is for everyone, and evidence that most who consider themselves elite don’t understand science. Also: the UK is moving forward with plans to dim the sun, because apparently we learned nothing from Covid, and informed consent is optional.

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Our elites don’t deserve this much hatred: https://www.thefp.com/p/elites-dont-deserve-hatred

Anti-effectiveness of mRNA shots: https://x.com/JBSay/status/1915059350407676294

Experiments to dim the Sun will be approved within weeks: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/22/experiments-to-dim-the-sun-get-green-light/

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This week in women: the UK Supreme Court declares that transwomen are not women, and women are lauded for putting on matching jumpsuits and being launched into space for a minute. In Britain, rapists can no longer pretend to be women; in the United States, we are asked to celebrate one of the oldest plays in the book—attractive woman attaches herself to wealthy man and attains power—and pretend that it represents female empowerment, while conveniently forgetting actually skilled women who have come before. Also: a hostage situation in Podcastistan: in which we explore the strange about-face of some prominent free speech warriors. Finally: the amazing institution that is Ralston College, whose themes are truth, freedom of inquiry, beauty, and fellowship.

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How women won the gender wars, by Kathleen Stock: https://unherd.com/2025/04/how-women-won-the-gender-wars/

Rapists aren’t women in the UK: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/18/trans-rapists-can-no-longer-claim-to-be-women/

Federal contracts to SpaceX, ULA & Blue Origin: https://spacenews.com/spacex-ula-blue-origin-win-13-5-billion-in-u-s-military-launch-contracts-through-2029/

Best shot at space for Amanda Nguyen: https://www.thecut.com/article/amanda-nguyen-blue-origin-space-flight-controversy.html

MIT research team: https://www.media.mit.edu/posts/amanda-nguyen-carries-mit-research-projects-into-orbit/

Former NASA engineer Aisha Bowe, in Ebony: https://www.ebony.com/black-women-technology-nasa/

Douglas Murray in the New York Post: https://nypost.com/2025/04/17/opinion/douglas-murray-so-called-israel-hamas-ukraine-war-experts-spew-false-info-on-joe-rogans-podcast-there-has-to-be-a-standard/

Ralston College: https://www.ralston.ac

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Bret Weinstein speaks with Tom Bilyeu on the subject of consciousness, philosophy, and the scientific method. They discuss the importance of a conscious approach to life, the utility of principles in achieving goals, and the challenges of navigating novelty in a rapidly changing world.

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Tariffs, Trump, AI, nature, and science. Are the tariffs insane, or brilliant? Will Trump actually bring manufacturing back to the U.S.? How are the “reciprocal tariffs” calculated, what game is everyone playing, and how long will it take to know who wins? Then: AI marches us further into the Cartesian Crisis; can we restore our humanity? Scientific American claims that too much nature is bad for you (it’s not), and finally, some words from County Highway, and why we should consider being quiet and listening to Aslan.

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Tucker Carlson & Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent: https://x.com/tuckercarlson/status/1908204378613248067

Jeffrey Sachs – Trump is uniting the world against the U.S.: https://x.com/AskBabaDog/status/1908232709417402724

Ross Perot in 1992, and the “giant sucking sound:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRr60nmDyu4&t=1s

Balaji on “nuking supply chains,” quote-tweeting Flexport’s graph of the formula used to generate “reciprocal tariffs”: https://x.com/balajis/status/1907645443221463105

AI alignment on tariffs: https://x.com/krishnanrohit/status/1907587352157106292

AI turns images into full-body animations: https://x.com/minchoi/status/1907799412094427205

Scientific American warns against spending too much time in nature: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/time-spent-in-nature-is-good-for-your-brain-but-an-excess-can-negate-these/

Zagnoli et al 2022. Is Greenness Associated with Dementia? A Systematic Review and Dose–Response Meta-analysis. Curr Envir Health Rpt 9: 574–590: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40572-022-00365-5

County Highway: https://www.countyhighway.com

Ralston College’s Sophia Lectures: https://www.ralston.ac/events/the-sophia-lectures-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-Heying

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In this week’s episode, we discuss ridiculous op-eds and letters to the editor in Nature this week, and the concept of fairness. First: gender equity for female scientists in war zones, and for women in mining. Are these laudable goals? Also: is division of labor between the sexes inherently objectionable? How does the concept of homeostasis relate to a body being given pharmaceutical interventions, a society being given equity interventions, or a government being given bureaucratic interventions? Then: level playing fields are the sine qua non of the West – they work in science, markets, politics, everything. Internet algorithms in their current state are, in comparison, anti-Western. Using the analogy of a card game, we discuss luck.

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Track gender ratios in research to keep countries, institutions and publishers accountable: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00891-w

Give grants to female scientists in war zones: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00926-2

How to get more women into mining: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00925-3

Murdock & Provost 1973. Factors in the division of labor by sex: A cross-cultural analysis. Ethnology 12(2): 203-225: https://www.jstor.org/stable/3773347

Ralston College’s Sophia Lectures: https://www.ralston.ac/events/the-sophia-lectures-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying

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Bret Weinstein speaks with Charles Eisenstein on the subject of blackmail in American politics. They explore the complexities surrounding Zionism, the implications of antisemitism in political discourse, and the psychological mechanisms of coercion and blackmail that influence public figures.

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RFK Jr tweet: https://x.com/seckennedy/status/1904259440544743427 

Bret’s Segment on RFK Jr. on Episode #269 https://youtu.be/Ms1p_WDJunA

Bret’s piece in Salon on terrorism: https://www.salon.com/2015/11/15/lets_not_get_it_wrong_this_time_the_terrorists_won_after_911_because_we_chose_to_invade_iraq_shred_our_constitution 

“Rabbi tells Senate hearing on anti-Semitism that it's ‘not enough’ to be ‘not anti-Semitic.’" Tweet: https://x.com/infolibnews/status/1906536666635850188

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In this week’s episode, we discuss 23andMe – what does its impending bankruptcy mean for data security, and why did people think their genetic data were secure before the company went into bankruptcy? As we protect existing rights laid out in the Constitution, we also need to innovate new protections in a world with new threats and possibilities. Going back to what was will not be sufficient. Then: Bobby Kennedy Jr. and anti-Semitism; and Columbia University’s response to the Trump administration as it tries to hang on to $400 million dollars in annual federal funding. Finally: it’s five years since our first Evolutionary Lens livestream—what did we say in that first episode? Were we right, or were we wrong?

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23andMe initiates bankruptcy: https://investors.23andme.com/news-releases/news-release-details/23andme-initiates-voluntary-chapter-11-process-maximize

A midwestern Doctor considers 23andMe: https://x.com/midwesterndoc/status/1904446639537902014

RFK Jr tweet: https://x.com/seckennedy/status/1904259440544743427

Columbia University’s unsigned 4 page letter: https://president.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/content/03.21.2025%20Columbia%20-%20FINAL.pdf

DarkHorse Evolutionary Lens, episode 1, March 24, 2020: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym-WGOq96G0

Ralston College’s Sophia Lectures: https://www.ralston.ac/events/the-sophia-lectures-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying

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In this week’s episode, we discuss the JFK assassination, deportations, DOGE, Tesla, anarchists, flu, measles, vaccines, and crunchy Moms. What do we make of the 80,000 pages of JFK files that were released yesterday? Are immigrants who are in the U.S. legally protected by the Constitution? What are they allowed to say, or think? Does anger at Elon Musk and DOGE explain the left going after Teslas? Or maybe it’s not the left at all, but anarchists. What’s up with flu this year, and should you get a flu shot? How about a measles vaccine? Did the measles vaccine contribute to the drop in measles deaths in the U.S.? And why are mothers who are concerned for the health and well-being of their children rejecting the advice of experts?

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“From the river to the sea” is both hateful and protected: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1901691755378118969

Netanyahu's funding for Hamas via Qatar enabled October 7 invasion, Shin Bet reveals: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-844701
Why This Year’s Flu Season Is the Worst in More Than a Decade: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-this-years-flu-season-is-the-worst-in-more-than-a-decade/

Died of, or died with? https://www.nmhealth.org/news/alert/2025/3/?view=2188

Rate of measles deaths in the U.S. from 1919 to 2021: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1560955/measles-death-rate-in-the-us-since-1919/

Crunchy moms aren’t scared of measles: https://unherd.com/2025/03/crunchy-moms-arent-scared-of-measles/

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Bret Weinstein speaks with Laura Delano, the author of “Unshrunk: A Story of Psychiatric Treatment Resistance” on the subject of today’s mental health treatment and psychotropic medications.

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- The Challenge of Going Off Psychiatric Drugs https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/08/the-challenge-of-going-off-psychiatric-drugs

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In this week’s episode, we discuss wheat and gluten; MAGA, Trump, Elon, and Massie; and elephants. First: the end to the first round of Bret’s European wheat experiment: what does it mean that he can eat European wheat, but not American wheat? Then: does Trump misunderstand the coalition that brought him to the presidency a second time? Will going after Thomas Massie be a strong move, or a bad move? Does Elon have too much power, and is he misusing it? How does masculinity manifest in this administration? Finally: elephants and their love of showers.

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Bret stands with Thomas Massie: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1899320001955541268

County Highway on this moment in time: https://countyhighway.com/archive/volume-2/issue-5/the-front-porch

The three tribes of MAGA men: https://unherd.com/2025/03/the-three-tribes-of-maga-men/

Urban et al 2025. Water-hose tool use and showering behavior by Asian elephants. Current Biology 34(23): 5602 - 5606.e1: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(24)01371-X

Turtle pronouns from a mental health advisor in Oregon: https://x.com/DaniFlyingFree/status/1899464252764610889

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