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#15 - What Is Queerness? Christianity's Subverting Influence - Part 1 with Michelle and Will


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Join us as we (David, TJ, and our friends Will and Michelle—who are asexual/queer) explore ideas of what “queerness” means. While we can’t come to one single definition, we hit on a kaleidoscope of topics as we explore the weirdness inherent in the word “queer,” the queering influence of Christianity, queerness and the arts, and ontological questions about queer sexual orientation.



A Few Quick Definitions for Your Optional Reference


asexuality: a lack of sexual attraction or desire for sexual activity (see Wikipedia)

ontology: the philosophical study of the nature of being, what it means to be; the nature of inherent personhood.

autognosis: self-knowledge; the understanding of one’s own psychodynamics, character, nature, abilities, etc.

theosis: the process of humans becoming more like God (this theological concept is prominent in particular in Eastern Orthodox Christian theology)


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Timestamps


Conversation with Michelle and Will:

1:30 - Introductions

3:50 - Queer as a neutral word for “weird”

9:25 - Early and medieval Christianity—Origen, consecrated virgins, Franciscans, and Anchorites

16:00 - Queer theory—destruction of cultural norms, avoiding oppression

18:10 - Queerness, the arts, and avoiding “the game”

(TJ’s definition of “queer” at 20:15: “a special affinity for people of the same sex”)

23:50 - Self knowledge (“autognosis”): becoming more ourselves, more like Christ

29:00 - Self creation: identity narcissism in our current culture

30:50 - Michelle on art that knows oneself, community, and God

33:10 - TJ on difficulties with ontology and gender norms


Further Thoughts from David and TJ:

38:35 - Ontology: queerness as inherent vs. queerness as essence (i.e., an established trait vs a core, created good)

42:10 - Defining queer: “same-sex affinity” vs. “challenging dominant cultural norms”

49:15 - On the social construction of (queer) identity categories

55:15 - Why “queer” should not be synonymous with “broken”


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Links and References


S04E10 | Collin, Michelle, & Will on Being Ace (w/ Grant)” (Life on Side B podcast)


Article: “Is Theatre Really Queer?


Book: On the Incarnation by Athanasius (read online)


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