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Lee and Simon verge on talking about Sex Education but aren't quite ready. Instead they diverge into some Star Wars chatter before discussing being reasonable, being rationale, the backfire effect and deep canvassing. Oh, and pizza hydration.

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Related links (and necessary corrections):

• Return of the Jedi released in 1983: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_the_Jedi
• How Minds Change by David McRaney: https://www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome
• Backfire effect (the thing Simon couldn't remember): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief_perseverance
• Deep canvassing (Simon got the year wrong): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_canvassing

Get in touch with Lee and Simon at [email protected].

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