Video animation by: Big Flowers

Intro/Outro beat by: BLOODBLIXING

The Plug (0:21).

Main Body of Discussion (2:06).

The ability to have tough conversations about complex topics is an art. It requires not only a great deal of nuanced knowledge on a topic to speak thoughtfully on it, but it also requires a great deal of self-awareness and empathy.

On The Golem of Brooklyn OST, Defcee successfully has one of these tough conversations with the community of white Jewish people he is a part of. He uses Adam Mansbach’s new novel as inspiration to depict thoughtful, and funny stories related to Jewish ideals and folklore in a contemporary context. Furthermore, Defcee levies criticisms that he has for his people, delivered from a place of love and understanding.

This concept is bolstered by the mystical, tone-setting instrumentals from the one and only Messiah Musik, who joins me alongside Defcee to dig deep into the makings of one of the best albums of the year, bar none.

Vast differences in how The Golem of Brooklyn was created vs. Trapdoor (3:48).

Main themes of Adam Mansbach’s novel, and what inspired the soundtrack’s creation (8:18). 

Adam Mansbach’s involvement in the creative process of the soundtrack (15:55).

How the concept shaped Messiah’s approach to the soundtrack’s sound (18:13).

The important conversation Defcee wanted to have with the Jewish community on The Golem of Brooklyn (22:50).

The timing of sharing these perspectives related to Judaism and whiteness, given the context of the heightened attention on anti-Semitism in the current socio-political climate (30:46).

What Defcee and Messiah took away from The Golem creative process, as it relates to their experience as white Jewish people (39:19).

How much of The Golem of Brooklyn was based on the content of the book vs. personal experience (44:22).

Favourite songs (45:53).

Upcoming projects from Defcee and Messiah Musik** (54:02).

**For insight specifically related to the next Defcee and Messiah Musik project, this is available as a patron-only exclusive! Become an RMPP patron to learn about the exciting new project these two have upcoming.

Buy/Stream The Golem of Brooklyn OST here: https://defcee.bandcamp.com/album/the-golem-of-brooklyn-original-soundtrack 

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