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“There's been a long tradition of saying that women that women who ruled were exceptions, that women who fought were exceptions. That, you know, it's Joan of Arc, it's not GI Joan.,And that trap gets us over and over again, not just with women warriors.” — Pamela D. Toler
In this episode of How To Write the Future podcast, host Beth Barany interviews author, speaker, and historian Pamela D. Toler. Together they dive into the importance of women in history and discuss the significant challenges in documenting Women's History and how it can be tied into storytelling. They also discuss Pamela’s book, Women Warriors: An Unexpected History.
ABOUT PAMELA D. TOLER
Armed with a PhD in history, a well-thumbed deck of library cards, and a large bump of curiosity, author, speaker, and historian Pamela D. Toler writes historical non-fiction for a popular audience. She goes beyond the familiar boundaries of American history to tell stories from other parts of the world as well as history from the other side of the battlefield, the gender line, or the color bar. Toler is the author of ten books of popular history for children and adults, including Women Warriors: An Unexpected History and The Dragon From Chicago: the Untold Story of an American Report in Nazi Germany.
Website: https://www.pameladtoler.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pamela.toler
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pamelatolerauthor/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelatoler/
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See also: Ep. 146 - How Ancient Female Warriors Shape Our Future
https://writersfunzone.com/blog/2025/03/31/how-ancient-female-warriors-shape-our-future/
GET HELP WITH YOUR WORLD BUILDING - START HERE
Free World Building Workbook for Fiction Writers: https://writersfunzone.com/blog/world-building-resources/
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Get support for your fiction writing by a novelist and writing teacher and coach. Schedule an exploratory call here and see if Beth can support you today: https://writersfunzone.com/blog/discovery-call/
c. 2025 BETH BARANY
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“There's been a long tradition of saying that women that women who ruled were exceptions, that women who fought were exceptions. That, you know, it's Joan of Arc, it's not GI Joan.,And that trap gets us over and over again, not just with women warriors.” — Pamela D. Toler
In this episode of How To Write the Future podcast, host Beth Barany interviews author, speaker, and historian Pamela D. Toler. Together they dive into the importance of women in history and discuss the significant challenges in documenting Women's History and how it can be tied into storytelling. They also discuss Pamela’s book, Women Warriors: An Unexpected History.
ABOUT PAMELA D. TOLER
Armed with a PhD in history, a well-thumbed deck of library cards, and a large bump of curiosity, author, speaker, and historian Pamela D. Toler writes historical non-fiction for a popular audience. She goes beyond the familiar boundaries of American history to tell stories from other parts of the world as well as history from the other side of the battlefield, the gender line, or the color bar. Toler is the author of ten books of popular history for children and adults, including Women Warriors: An Unexpected History and The Dragon From Chicago: the Untold Story of an American Report in Nazi Germany.
Website: https://www.pameladtoler.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pamela.toler
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pamelatolerauthor/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamelatoler/
RESOURCES
Support our work for creatives! Buy me a coffee: https://ko-fi.com/bethbarany
See also: Ep. 146 - How Ancient Female Warriors Shape Our Future
https://writersfunzone.com/blog/2025/03/31/how-ancient-female-warriors-shape-our-future/
GET HELP WITH YOUR WORLD BUILDING - START HERE
Free World Building Workbook for Fiction Writers: https://writersfunzone.com/blog/world-building-resources/
Sign up for the 30-minute Story Success Clinic with Beth Barany: https://writersfunzone.com/blog/story-success-clinic/
Get support for your fiction writing by a novelist and writing teacher and coach. Schedule an exploratory call here and see if Beth can support you today: https://writersfunzone.com/blog/discovery-call/
c. 2025 BETH BARANY
https://bethbarany.com/
Questions? Comments? Send us a text!
Support the show
---
♦︎ JOIN THE MEMBERSHIP: For fiction writers! You've finished your first draft! Congrats! Now what?
Join the Edit the Future: Sci‑Fi/Fantasy Revision Lab. Get premium weekly lessons and a monthly Q&A on Zoom. Subscribe: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2012061/subscribe
♥︎ FREE: Sign up here for the Edit Your Novel Checklist
Helps writers revise faster with less overwhelm by focusing first on diagnosis, not fixing.
Get yours at http://edityournovelchecklist.com.
♡ SHOP: Sci‑Fi & Fantasy 24 Writing Prompts: https://ko-fi.com/s/4ac9160a74
❤️ Want to be interviewed on the podcast? => Email us!
CONNECT WITH BETH
CREDITS
EDITED WITH DESCRIPT (Affiliate link)
MUSIC: Uppbeat.io
DISTRIBUTED BY BUZZSPROUT: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1994465

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