In this episode,Trent interviews David Piccerelli who shares insights from his experience in public media. He discusses the challenges of leading a nonprofit organization, the importance of humility and psychological safety in the workplace, and the lessons learned from both successful and unsuccessful hires. David emphasizes the need for objectivity in public media and reflects on personal growth throughout his career. Takeaways -Understanding your audience is key in fundraising efforts. -Persistence is important in fundraising and leadership. -Bad hires can lead to valuable lessons and better future hires. -Owning mistakes and moving on is a sign of strong leadership. Chapters 01:57 Navigating Nonprofit Challenges 05:44 Fundraising Strategies and Networking 12:13 Learning from Mistakes and Bad Hires 19:40 The Impact of Bad Hires