Chuck Shelton is the founder and chief executive officer (CEO) of Greatheart Consulting, a consultancy firm designed to help companies and organizations create more diverse, inclusive, and equitable environments. On the Diversity Pivot Podcast, we're having tough conversations about privilege, inclusion, and leadership journeys. Chuck joins the podcast to share vulnerably about:

• What it will take to engage more white men as allies
• The role white people play in diversity
• Why perfection is not available for allies

Connect with Chuck at https://www.greatheartconsulting.com/ and meet Julie at NextPivotPoint.com.