On this week's interview, Paul talks to Patrick Brenner. Patrick is Director of Giving with the Foundation, so they talk a bit about end of year opportunities to support the Foundation and its work in New Mexico. Of course, at a small organization like RGF, Patrick wears more than one hat and Patrick has personal experience working with New Mexico's public records laws both independently and with the Foundation. Paul and Patrick discuss these and many other issues in the final interview episode of 2019.