Ben Moore is one of Australia's leading bee experts but there is a whole another life before he created a business out of his passion for bees. We talk gambling addiction, police raids, homelessness, family tragedy, working as a chef, dodgy pet shops and of course bees. 

Current day, Ben travels both Australia and the world for bees when he is not tending to the hundreds hives he has located all around his home state of Victoria. This episode though is not about current day though, its about his life before bees.

Ben's Instagram: @benbeesau

Ben's website: bensbees.com.au

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TRIGGER WARNING: Stillbirth story included in this episode.