Host Dr. Philip Lindholm sits down with Pierce County Executive Ryan Mello to answer a fundamental question: Is homelessness a housing problem?  Ryan explains what he sees as the root causes of homelessness, the rising cost of housing, and the policies that could turn the tide in Pierce County and beyond.

Philip kicks off the episode by asking the central question:Is homelessness a housing problem? Executive Mello responds emphatically, stating that it absolutely is—a lack of housing is the strongest correlation with homelessness. Mello walks us through the top drivers of homelessness,citing data from Pierce County's Point-in-Time Count. He emphasizes three main causes: lack of affordable housing, insufficient income, and family crises such as domestic violence or rejection after coming out as LGBTQ+.
Substance use and mental health disorders, Mello explains, are often consequences rather than causes of homelessness. He defends the housing-first model, which builds trust and safety as a foundation for tackling deeper issues. The conversation also explores low-barrier shelters and the challenge of balancing civil liberties with public safety. Mello supports involuntary commitment only in cases where someone poses a violent threat to themselves or others.
The episode then shifts to the rising cost of housing. Mello outlines the impacts of inflation, zoning laws, and reduced construction, making the case for more regional collaboration and public subsidies. He introduces the GrowthManagement Act, advocating for smart urban development and warning against urban sprawl.
In terms of actionable solutions, Mello discusses eviction prevention, rental assistance programs, and community land trusts. He stresses the need for a unified regional approach, inclusive planning, and protection against displacement. Listeners are encouraged to educate themselves and engage with local officials to support these initiatives.

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