In this episode my best friend John and I talk addiction, our long friendship, the differences between being a problem gambler and a non-problem gambler. We also dive into an event from today and why I felt the way I did and how it relates back to my childhood and early adulthood with feelings of being discarded or abandoned. Thanks for listening! 

Here is the link to my wife Kellys Podcast "I, Butterfly; A Podcast For Affected Others" https://open.spotify.com/episode/7GpTILF7OkeT0xEMCSUevw?si=oDKnePKJR-ekVdyMzM2lYQ&utm_source=native-share-menu&nd=1

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